Comments Thread For: Canelo Alvarez, Gennady Golovkin Battle To a Split Draw

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  • Boxing Logic
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    #941
    Originally posted by KingHippo
    Just as I thought, all the 'tards crying robbery. Just come forward swing for the fences and gass out by the 10th, just come forward and eat shots to the gut, that's how you win with casuals.
    You're right, gassing out by the 10th isn't a 100% ideal strategy, but when your opponent gasses out by the 4th, then it's actually sunshine and rainbows. Which is what happened.

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    • KingHippo
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      #942
      Originally posted by Boxing Logic
      You're right, gassing out by the 10th isn't a 100% ideal strategy, but when your opponent gasses out by the 4th, then it's actually sunshine and rainbows. Which is what happened.
      Lol, are you talking about Canelo? He obviously took a break in the middle rounds and was fresh as a rose in the 9th. Smart. Golovkin was nearly throwing up in his corner. You sure you should have logic in your username?

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      • turnedup
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        #943
        Originally posted by livershot73
        You read the latest? Now Team Canelo may not even pursue a rematch until SEPTEMBER 2018! .....smh...
        To be honest I expected it. No disrespect to them because the fighter deep down might want it but with Oscar in play this is to be expected.

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        • Boxing lives
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          #944
          This fight was more of a "boxing" match and an inconclusive anticlimatic splooge of a let down. Wasn't the action fight HBO said was for sure fight of the year. Oh well, atleast we had an action fight in Mayweather-Mcgregor..
          Last edited by Boxing lives; 09-17-2017, 08:57 PM.

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          • Red_Menace
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            #945
            Finally watched it. This is a very hard fight to score. People who rate activity are going to pick Golovkin, and people who rate defense or power shots are going to pick Alvarez. I thought Alvarez took the first two rounds clearly, but after that you have 10 rounds that will swing based on who's style you prefer, or pure fanboyism. I had 3 rounds where I really couldn't figure out who won, because Canelo would land the better shots early, and Golovkin would be outworking him late. I can see wins for either guy as high as 116. I can see a card turned in as a draw. 118 is a bit much, but I wouldn't be freaking out over a 117 either way.

            What was clear to me is Alvarez's defence was quite good and he made Golovkin miss a lot. Both guys have iron chins, but Canelo's was not tested nearly as much as Golovkins. Golovkin's chin is very good and he's just a machine that doesn't really slow down. He was able to keep pressuring Alvarez and prevent him from resting too much like most of Alvarez's opponents do. Alvarez didn't have the power to really slow him down, so he had to keep moving, parry and make him miss. Didn't really think he was running. No real time for a breather. Maybe Alvarez just doesn't have middleweight power to slow a MW down. He looked a little bit smaller than GGG. Still landed most of the harder shots in the fight.

            Good fight from two good competitors. I'm not losing any sleep over a draw or the cards.

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            • kushking
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              #946
              Originally posted by Red_Menace
              Finally watched it. This is a very hard fight to score. People who rate activity are going to pick Golovkin, and people who rate defense or power shots are going to pick Alvarez. I thought Alvarez took the first two rounds clearly, but after that you have 10 rounds that will swing based on who's style you prefer, or pure fanboyism. I had 3 rounds where I really couldn't figure out who won, because Canelo would land the better shots early, and Golovkin would be outworking him late. I can see wins for either guy as high as 116. I can see a card turned in as a draw. 118 is a bit much, but I wouldn't be freaking out over a 117 either way.

              What was clear to me is Alvarez's defence was quite good and he made Golovkin miss a lot. Both guys have iron chins, but Canelo's was not tested nearly as much as Golovkins. Golovkin's chin is very good and he's just a machine that doesn't really slow down. He was able to keep pressuring Alvarez and prevent him from resting too much like most of Alvarez's opponents do. Alvarez didn't have the power to really slow him down, so he had to keep moving, parry and make him miss. Didn't really think he was running. No real time for a breather. Maybe Alvarez just doesn't have middleweight power to slow a MW down. He looked a little bit smaller than GGG. Still landed most of the harder shots in the fight.

              Good fight from two good competitors. I'm not losing any sleep over a draw or the cards.
              Excellent post. These are legacy fights on both sides & couldn't be happier we get to see 2.0, as I posted earlier fishnets gave a statement that canelo is excercising his immediate rematch clause in may or maybe sooner. Its the closest boxing has come back to recovering from may vs pac hangover. This was the best yr. for boxing in yrs & I don't feel ripped off for high ticket price.

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              • livershot73
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                #947
                Originally posted by aboutfkntime
                I am saying that Golovkin talked all that 154-168 smack, and then b1tched over weight..... so, Canelo should have made him wait until he was ready, at 160

                truth be known..... Golovkin may only be the third best middleweight on the planet, behind Jacobs/Canelo



                That's just your opinion, friend and yes, you are entitled to it...but I would have to disagree with you as Jacobs has already lost to GGG and Canelo was unable to beat him.

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                • livershot73
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                  #948
                  Originally posted by turnedup
                  To be honest I expected it. No disrespect to them because the fighter deep down might want it but with Oscar in play this is to be expected.
                  Good point....just like when he was (most likely) advised to dump the WBC belt 2 years ago

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                  • livershot73
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                    #949
                    Originally posted by kushking
                    He is excercising his immediate rematch clause,as I said canelo fights may & sept just like Mayweather did,biggest dates in boxing.

                    https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/boxin...arez-golovkin/
                    Thanks for the link...let's hope Oscar is not just talking out his ass like he tends to do a lot of the time
                    Last edited by livershot73; 09-17-2017, 11:45 PM.

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                    • alexguiness
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                      #950
                      It was not a robbery, that would have only occurred if Canelo had won by a UD.

                      The two elements for me were;

                      1) The 110-118 scorecard is nonsensical, how someone gets paid to make such a call is ridiculous.

                      2) GGG was the aggressor. Canelo had moments and some clean work but overall it was clear that GGG held center ring and controlled the pace / intensity of the fight.

                      Overall Canelo's work was sharp and clean, but he never stooped or even slowed GGG through the whole fight.

                      As an effective counter puncher you need to slow down your opponent and make them hesitate with your shots, like Floyd does so very well - he breaks the rhythm of the aggressor. Canelo landed, but GGG just walked through him.

                      On that basis I believe GGG won the fight, Canelo is used to being the stronger guy and didn't really have a plan B to adapt to the fact GGG was walking him down.

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