Comments Thread For: Teddy Atlas: Golovkin Has Declined, Exposed as One-Dimensional

[aboutfkntime]

AFT ! I spent enough time preaching to my cat with a bottle of buckfast in my hand to know when Jack Daniels is on the keyboard - good to have you back ! (c'mon, how many beers was that before....be honest)

not only Canelo..... what was your opinion on Jacobs ?

the biggest shift in perception is not Golovkin, it is Danny Jacobs

most pundits saw Jacobs as a future G-victim, who had little/no chance..... and would be sparked within 6

now..... he is elite

and forget YEARS..... that turn-around happened in 1 fight

does that really sound right to you guys ?????

or, is it more likely that.....

* Danny was better than most observers thought

* Golovkin is a little more limited than most observers thought, especially when facing a fighter who utilises the right gameplan (movement/precision)

come on

#stylesbaby

[Shadoww702]

I'm just surprised you thought Atlas was in his corner. Rooney wasn't in his corner either.. just in case you didn't know.

I know that now. Neither one those guys would of made the TERRIBLE mistakes Tysons corner did that night??? WOW!!! When I read how they forgot all their gear?? And used latex gloves with ice??? Wow!!!

Im just gonna roll with this fight got me full rtard for 1 night.

[juggernaut666]

" Crazy Teddy" must be going berserk right now at a robbery since he picked Canelo..Prices are going INSANE!!!!!!.Wonder what poor soul is next to him based on his last fight which actually had the right guy winning? lmao

[angkag]

some said that fight would be much closer than people think way back when most folks were saying that Canelo was a coward who would never fight GGG because he knows he would get sparked in 4 rounds

be honest, what was your call

how far has your opinion swung ?

I thought Golovkin would dominate. Many of the aspects of the fight went as expected, Golovkin's jab and pressure, Canelo gassing etc, but fallout is primarily Canelo going up in my estimation, while Golovkin being about the same.

I thought it was a fair win for Golovkin, but got no issues with a draw - it felt ok that way at the end. Except for that stinker of a card from Byrd, an all-around good night.

I wasn't surprised with the Golovkin power thing. Golovkin wins by pressure and shot accumulation, not single shots, and Canelo needs credit for stopping the shot accumulation. Golovkin didn't land often and consistently enough to get his usual beat-down, and that's credit to Canelo vs fault of Golovkin (imo).

I was particularly interested in how Golovkin would manage Canelo on the ropes, and Golovkin did indeed stay out of the uppercut zone, but Golovkin staying that 1/2 step further back than normal plus Canelo's head and body movement on the ropes stopped Golovkin capitalising there like he normally does. Credit to Canelo again - no-one defends as well off the ropes as he does.

Great fight, although I guess it might have lacked the flash-points that appeal to the casuals. Haven't read around to see how casuals viewed it yet.

[aboutfkntime]

I thought Golovkin would dominate. Many of the aspects of the fight went as expected, Golovkin's jab and pressure, Canelo gassing etc, but fallout is primarily Canelo going up in my estimation, while Golovkin being about the same.

I thought it was a fair win for Golovkin, but got no issues with a draw - it felt ok that way at the end. Except for that stinker of a card from Byrd, an all-around good night.

I wasn't surprised with the Golovkin power thing. Golovkin wins by pressure and shot accumulation, not single shots, and Canelo needs credit for stopping the shot accumulation. Golovkin didn't land often and consistently enough to get his usual beat-down, and that's credit to Canelo vs fault of Golovkin (imo).

I was particularly interested in how Golovkin would manage Canelo on the ropes, and Golovkin did indeed stay out of the uppercut zone, but Golovkin staying that 1/2 step further back than normal plus Canelo's head and body movement on the ropes stopped Golovkin capitalising there like he normally does. Credit to Canelo again - no-one defends as well off the ropes as he does.

Great fight, although I guess it might have lacked the flash-points that appeal to the casuals. Haven't read around to see how casuals viewed it yet.

fair call

that fight changed very little about my opinion of both

Golovkin is possibly a little tougher than I gave him credit for

Canelo should develop and get better at 160

[angkag]

fair call

that fight changed very little about my opinion of both

Golovkin is possibly a little tougher than I gave him credit for

Canelo should develop and get better at 160

AFT, if you really do your homework, one thing you might find is I wrote this the day before the fight.....

'If it does end up a close run affair over 12, the bet that might be worth it based on the prices is a draw !!'

[aboutfkntime]

AFT, if you really do your homework, one thing you might find is I wrote this the day before the fight.....

'If it does end up a close run affair over 12, the bet that might be worth it based on the prices is a draw !!'

nice job !

this was mine.....

it will be close/competitive, hard-fought, and possibly controversial..... but I slightly favor Canelo UD12

and I said you would have to be nuts to bet on that fight, don't touch it

I couldn't believe so many people were picking a Golovkin KO

[JackTorrance]

I wasn't surprised with the Golovkin power thing. Golovkin wins by pressure and shot accumulation, not single shots, and Canelo needs credit for stopping the shot accumulation. Golovkin didn't land often and consistently enough to get his usual beat-down, and that's credit to Canelo vs fault of Golovkin (imo).

I felt it was partly Golovkin's fault as well. He was clearly nervous of unloading on Canelo in his usual manner. He's often happy to take shots to land them but seemed too cautious and respectful of Canelo's abilities and willingly eased off a few times when he had Canelo covering up on the ropes. That's why Abel was telling him not to let up. When he did open up though Canelo hit a few good counters and rallies (with very hard shots) - so no doubt that was part of the reason why he was tentative.

[angkag]

I felt it was partly Golovkin's fault as well. He was clearly nervous of unloading on Canelo in his usual manner. He's often happy to take shots to land them but seemed too cautious and respectful of Canelo's abilities and willingly eased off a few times when he had Canelo covering up on the ropes. That's why Abel was telling him not to let up. When he did open up though Canelo hit a few good counters and rallies (with very hard shots) - so no doubt that was part of the reason why he was tentative.

What I saw on the ropes was it was the fear of Canelo's uppercut that kept Golovkin 1/2 pace further back than normal. That plus Canelo's head and body movement meant that Golovkin couldn't do his usual thing on the ropes, where he normally gets his accumulation for a beat-down. It seemed Canelo got his rest breaks without paying too high a price, then was able to slide out when he wanted to, almost in an identical way each time. Was sweet to watch, no-one else has been able to do that. Only adjustment Golovkin can make is to close the 1/2 step, and then the uppercut comes into play.