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  • Lester Tutor
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    #121
    Originally posted by GhostofDempsey
    No different than Floyd entering the ring wearing a Sombrero and holding his fights on Mexican holidays. Mexicans make up a large segment of boxing fans, especially in the Southwest U.S. They also like his fighting style because he fights to win by KO, not run and clinch his way to a UD.

    Too many snowflakes feigning hurt feelings right now or jumping on the race card. He meant it as a compliment and as a way of pandering for their support, nothing to read into.
    Kazakhstani boxers are well respected in the amateur world. Ideally Golovkin should be proclaiming his nationality for "real Kazakh style" the same way Floyd has always emphasized he is an American and represented the red white an blue. Floyd has never said he is Mexican.... and that tradition came from Roger..

    Ironically Floyd and Roger are always criticized for such acts..

    But because Golovkin claims to have true blood and promote everything Mexican style gives Floyd the right?

    Floyd has never said he fights Mexican style or said he had any blood of it. He doesn't need to. He's a Mayweather

    You guys like the idea that Golovkin is patronizing an exploitation to sell a fight for years vs a one time moment of a walk out in a sombrero?

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    • Joe Beamish
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      #122
      Golovkin is both sincere and cringe worthy. He brings a simplex personality to the table. No confusion, no thoughts, just fight. I like box. Respect box.

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        #123
        Originally posted by GhostofDempsey
        No different than Floyd entering the ring wearing a Sombrero and holding his fights on Mexican holidays. Mexicans make up a large segment of boxing fans, especially in the Southwest U.S. They also like his fighting style because he fights to win by KO, not run and clinch his way to a UD.

        Too many snowflakes feigning hurt feelings right now or jumping on the race card. He meant it as a compliment and as a way of pandering for their support, nothing to read into.
        It is different. Floyd never fought like a Mexican nor had a Mexican trainer. He is also black. There are virtually no blacks in Mexico whilst there is people that looke like GGG.

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          #124
          Originally posted by Robbie Barrett
          Has Golovkin ever actually been to Mexico? The country he claims to love so much.
          Yes, he has been to L.A. or "El Pueblo de Nuestra Señora La Reina de Los ángeles del Río de Porcíuncula", the original name. He has walked on Olvera Street, basically Mexico and were the city was founded.

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            #125
            Originally posted by Verus
            I think there is a bit of confusion about what is "white" and what is Mexican. I think we can say with certainty that GGG is Asian -- Kazak and Korean. Whether that means white or not depends on the definition of "white." Mexicans are either current citizens of Mexico or have ancestral roots in Mexico. While most "Mexicans" are primarily indigenous with some European thrown in, others are principally European or Asian in origin and some are ***s and still, others are Afro Mexican. The beauty of Mexico is that it covers the gamut when it comes to race. I will say this about this debate. Given the common definition of white, I suspect that there are more whites in Mexico than in Kazakhstan.
            True, but the rela Mexican is not indigenous, it is mestizo. In that case the real Americans are the Cherokees.

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              #126
              Kazakhstan and Mexico do have some Y-DNA and mDNA Haplotype similarities.

              But could GGG and Canelo both also have a bit of Celto-Scythian

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                #127
                Originally posted by Mirko Troll Cop
                Kazakhstani boxers are well respected in the amateur world. Ideally Golovkin should be proclaiming his nationality for "real Kazakh style" the same way Floyd has always emphasized he is an American and represented the red white an blue. Floyd has never said he is Mexican.... and that tradition came from Roger..

                Ironically Floyd and Roger are always criticized for such acts..

                But because Golovkin claims to have true blood and promote everything Mexican style gives Floyd the right?

                Floyd has never said he fights Mexican style or said he had any blood of it. He doesn't need to. He's a Mayweather

                You guys like the idea that Golovkin is patronizing an exploitation to sell a fight for years vs a one time moment of a walk out in a sombrero?
                Originally posted by budfr
                It is different. Floyd never fought like a Mexican nor had a Mexican trainer. He is also black. There are virtually no blacks in Mexico whilst there is people that looke like GGG.
                Floyd was the one entering the ring wearing a Sombrero and pandering to Mexican fans. He chose to fight on Mexican holidays in order to market to the Mexican fans, while taking on flat-footed, B-rate Latino opponents. He essentially did the same damn thing, but you don't like it coming from a white fighter, but for some reason it was ok when Floyd pandered to the Mexican fans for their PPV money and acceptance. It was all smoke and mirrors to detract from the fact he was fighting no-hopers and mismatches.

                GGG isn't being literal when he says he has Mexican blood. It's like someone saying they have warrior blood or they are the "Son of God". Do you think Ward believes he is Jesus Christ himself by calling himself the SOG?

                And to say there are no blacks in Mexico is just ignorant. There are well over a million blacks in Mexico.

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                  #128
                  Originally posted by Mirko Troll Cop
                  Kazakhstani boxers are well respected in the amateur world. Ideally Golovkin should be proclaiming his nationality for "real Kazakh style" the same way Floyd has always emphasized he is an American and represented the red white an blue. Floyd has never said he is Mexican.... and that tradition came from Roger..

                  Ironically Floyd and Roger are always criticized for such acts..

                  But because Golovkin claims to have true blood and promote everything Mexican style gives Floyd the right?

                  Floyd has never said he fights Mexican style or said he had any blood of it. He doesn't need to. He's a Mayweather

                  You guys like the idea that Golovkin is patronizing an exploitation to sell a fight for years vs a one time moment of a walk out in a sombrero?
                  its because of their intention. floyd and roger is not doing it to show that they support mexicans or mexico. they're doing it to show dominance over it. its a way of them saying they fought against this fighter who has his whole country behind him and they defeated and conquer it. that's why they dont get the same type love.

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                    #129
                    Originally posted by WesternChamp
                    its because of their intention. floyd and roger is not doing it to show that they support mexicans or mexico. they're doing it to show dominance over it. its a way of them saying they fought against this fighter who has his whole country behind him and they defeated and conquer it. that's why they dont get the same type love.
                    Floyd has always given props to Mexicans in the sport. Shıt man we Turks love Zapata. Look at the Mexicans rocking war gear like Pancho Villa. I thought this is why they say Mexicans are warriors, not so much just boxing





                    Floyd saying he has Roman blood?



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                    • WesternChamp
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                      #130
                      Originally posted by Mirko Troll Cop
                      Floyd has always given props to Mexicans in the sport. Shıt man we Turks love Zapata. Look at the Mexicans rocking war gear like Pancho Villa. I thought this is why they say Mexicans are warriors, not so much just boxing





                      Floyd saying he has Roman blood?




                      given props yes! i know he has. but what im saying is his intention when he wears a sombrero is not him showing support. its him low key inserting his dominance.

                      floyd always talks about how foreign fighters have the full support of their country and that american fighters lack the same support.

                      when floyd wears a sombrero he is showing that he is not just fighting against that fighter but he is fighting against that fighter's whole country.
                      Last edited by WesternChamp; 09-13-2017, 10:12 AM.

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