The Way Gonzalez Fought Was Embarrassing

[siablo14]

Castillo, Kovalev.

To have their number, a argument has to be made that those fighters beat them twice.

Both Floyd and Ward easily won those rematches.

[Mr Objecitivity]

Its like people feel like P4P is a seat reserved for who they want to see up there but after Floyd retired and Ward as inactive there was not many other boxers that were worthy or qualified, keep in mind Crawford just became undisputed...so I dont have a problem that NSB dont regard him as high as #1. but to call him a hype-job is totally unfounded and its funny to me that some people hating on GGG for not moving up or challenging himself ( at least in their eyes ) cant see the hypocrisy when 'Chocolatito' has been doing just that!

I respect your honesty. I was also disappointed in Choco for not being a man of his word, that is karma and he deserved to get sparked.

It's one thing to claim he doesn't deserve to be ranked as the absolute best P4P boxer (which is a fair criticism that I agree with), but it's another thing to claim he is a hype job and at least not one of the best (which I disagree with). I never really ranked him as the absolute 1 P4P boxer. However, he's always been on my top list. So somehow him not being as great as Floyd Mayweather Jr or a Manny Pacquiao doesn't make him as bad as some are claiming him to be. He might be inferior to them relatively, but he is still one of the best in boxing regardless.

Also, good point about the hypocrisy of those individuals criticizing GGG for not moving up and thhen not giving credit to Roman Gonzalez for doing just that.

[GhostofDempsey]

At least he fought a prime, dangerous opponent. What is embarrassing is claiming to be the best and then fighting C-rate fighters and MMA clowns.

[WesternChamp]

Styles makes fight you POS, Roman is a pressure fighter, Rugvisai is a brick wall that does not fold under pressure and instead throws bombs while being pressured.. Chocolatito has actually never faced such boxers, every one else he faced folded under pressure, including Estrada, Cuadras.

pretty much this.

now im not defending choc but style makes fight.

[WesternChamp]

At least he fought a prime, dangerous opponent. What is embarrassing is claiming to be the best and then fighting C-rate fighters and MMA clowns.

bu bu but it was for $300mil doe!

and conor called floyd out!

[New England]

Poor ignorant, first fight of Gonzalez in 112 pounds it was vs Miguel Tellez IN 2008.

This guy no way in hell is a natural 105 pounds or 108.

He is a natural 112 pounds.

And before the fight vs Cuadras, he had fights in 116 pounds. "peeleft:

he took a fight here or there, but he didn't move there permanently or fight at the championship level until he'd been a pro for more than half a decade.


your narrative is way, way off if you're taking one tune up fight or a fight here or there between championship fights to stay busy as evidence that he was a 112 lber all along. he was 5'3" tall and he was fighting championship level fights for years [almost 8 of them] prior to moving permanently to 112 lbs

"he foght at 112 lbs once, he was actually a 112 lber all along. nevermind the fact that he was actually a 105 and 108 lber for almost an entire decade."


keep digging, i'll get you a shovel. i love seeing this narrative discrediting chocolatito's career after he was very obviously on the decline and took a beating, or that he had hard fights in his 4th weight class and when he was in his late 20's and 30's, a decade into a career as a come forward and aggressive puncher, and well after most tiny little boxers peak.


he was not a bigger guy fighting smaller guys. he was a minimum weight and a 108 lber literally for long enough to be a hall of famer. had a half a decade run as champion at 105 and 108 lbs, and weighed exactly 108 lbs when he debuted.

[Motorcity Cobra]

This is completely ****** , you cant compare the level of competition : that Gonzalez fought to Rungivisai in world title bouts and you are completely ignorant or deliberately ignore the Thai system of match making when even their top elite fighters will fight other rivals from different gyms despite not having world class experience.

Whats the motive for the hate? he never disrespected anyone and has done what is expect and beyond.

So getting stopped twice doesn't put wear & tear on your body? He was thrown to the wolves his very first fight & was stopped in his first two fights. If Chocolatito is this great p4p fighter why has he been in so many wars with mediocre competition? His greatness was being able to cut weight & take punches to the face while overpowering smaller guys.

[New England]

fanboy excuses like he was a championship level fighter for 10 years taking punches in victory and defeat?


what gonzales doesn't have is a manufactured record that allows him to continue to make mone well into his 30's. he's also a tiny guy, and they peak early in life. he was maneuvered into hard fights and had a style that lead to him hitting the wall you saw the other night, but you could also see the decline for years. had his face broken, was not the combination he used to be, hard fight with cuadras, a bigger guy by a long shot if you know what you're looking at, where he started to really show his age.



i saw some black supremecist called "boxing ego" on the istagram trying to compare him to "4 division champion" adrien broner.


"we got 4 belts, yall mad"
"he got 4 belts, yall praise."


you should see the guy's comment section. it's hard line black supremecists saying broner is better than chocolatito, and real boxing fans saying "see chocolatito in the hall, see broner in prison in 5 years."


About billions doe.

[New England]

So getting stopped twice doesn't put wear & tear on your body? He was thrown to the wolves his very first fight & was stopped in his first two fights. If Chocolatito is this great p4p fighter why has he been in so many wars with mediocre competition? His greatness was being able to cut weight & take punches to the face while overpowering smaller guys.

you are so f#cking dense

he was a 5'3" minimum weight and 108 lber who didn't leave 108 lbs for good until he'd been boxing pro for damn near a decade.


i have no idea where you guys get the stones to act liek you understand boxing. go check out the career of any historically great little guy and you'll see hiim fall way the hell off when he gets older. this narrative is surprising, but it shou;dn't be. you guys are literally idiots.

[Motorcity Cobra]

you are so f#cking dense

he was a 5'3" minimum weight and 108 lber who didn't leave 108 lbs for good until he'd been boxing pro for damn near a decade.


i have no idea where you guys get the stones to act liek you understand boxing. go check out the career of any historically great little guy and you'll see hiim fall way the hell off when he gets older. this narrative is surprising, but it shou;dn't be. you guys are literally idiots.

As he got older and wasn't able to cut the weight anymore and fought guys his size or a lil bigger it showed he was nothing more than a face first brawler who had nothing to fall back on when he couldn't rely on being the bigger guy. What did he do after the first knockdown? Did he clinch to buy time? No. Did he jab & move to keep the guy at bay and try to counter? No. He did what he's always done. Went face first and tried to outslug a guy who was hitting harder and faster. If you know the other guy is faster and hitting harder & your punches aren't having much of an affect why go back to brawling? Because he had nothing else in his toolbag. #1 p4p my ass.