Ward Beats Usyk

[Cutthroat]

What are people's excuses for Bellew becoming a champion at cruiser? Vlasov right behind him in the rankings as a top 10 cruiser as well. Or Edison Miranda going a full 10 rounds with a puncher/champion like Dorticos?




C'mon, a 25 year old Andre Ward didn't struggle this much with Edison Miranda.

[Mr Objecitivity]

He beat Froch handily with a broken hand. Kovalev is a better fighter than Usyk and rarely lost rounds compared to him.

Sergey Kovalev himself would disagree with you and wouldn't even step into the ring with Usyk in an actual pro boxing bout. And for good reason too!

And injuries are usually experienced by boxers from time to time. Doesn't change the fact that Ward did no better against Kovalev or Froch, than Usyk did against Breidis.

And Usyk actually fought Breidis in his own backyard with a jet lag. So he was at a similar disadvantage as Ward was from his hand injury. And it's something Ward has never done (beating a top/elite opponent in their backyard). Till then, Usyk remains a superior WORLD / GLOBAL / INTERNATIONAL champion than your local American hero champion that is Andre Ward,

[Mr Objecitivity]

What are people's excuses for Bellew becoming a champion at cruiser? Vlasov right behind him in the rankings as a top 10 cruiser as well. Or Edison Miranda going a full 10 rounds with a puncher/champion like Dorticos?




C'mon, a 25 year old Andre Ward didn't struggle this much with Edison Miranda.

Single bouts prove nothing about the entirety of anything. Mairis Breidis knocked out Manuel Charr who is now currently a heavyweight champion. So what?

Marco Huck gave prime Povetkin his second toughest fight who at age 38, is currently one of the top contenders in today's heavyweight division. So what does that tell us about the heavyweight division?

What are anyone's excuses for Adonis Stevenson becoming a champion at light heavyweight having moved up to light heavyweight from super middleweight?

Single events can happen! Truth is, weight divisions exist for a reason and if light heavyweights had to face cruiser weights, almost all, if not all of them would lose.

[Mr Objecitivity]

Kovalev p4p is a better puncher than both Breidis and Usyk. More accurate with his punches too, more straight. He doesn't telegraph them and he's faster.

Ward can outbox and out-maneuver both of them. He'll frustrate and decision them. It won't be the prettiest thing in the world, but he'll get it done.

Sergey Kovalev would disagree with you and wouldn't dare to even step into the ring with either of these two and for food reason too. Usyk is significantly faster than Kovalev. No comparison there and Breidis would probably light out nearly any light heavyweight today.

Usyk has the far superior movement to Ward and it's not even close. Usyk had jet lag in a foreign territory and that's why his performance wasn't as good as it could've been but he would literally do to Ward what Lomachenko did to Rigondeaux if he's at peak physical condition.

[Cutthroat]

Single bouts prove nothing about the entirety of anything. Mairis Breidis knocked out Manuel Charr who is now currently a heavyweight champion. So what?

Marco Huck gave prime Povetkin his second toughest fight who at age 38, is currently one of the top contenders in today's heavyweight division. So what does that tell us about the heavyweight division?

What are anyone's excuses for Adonis Stevenson becoming a champion at light heavyweight having moved up to light heavyweight from super middleweight?

Single events can happen! Truth is, weight divisions exist for a reason and if light heavyweights had to face cruiser weights, almost all, if not all of them would lose.

It's not just single bouts, it's Bellew, Vlasov, and even Roy JRR showing things at the weight they shouldn't if it was truly as good as you believe it is.

Charr is not a top 20 HW, he got KO'd by Povetkin, beaten by Duhapaus, and won a vacant belt over another HW not in the top 20. Briedis couldn't even hurt Perez, what's your excuse for that?


Povetkin wasn't in his prime vs Huck, it was after.

Fatboy Povetkin struggled to beat guys like Chambers and had bad stamina issues.



THIS is prime Pedvetkin, if you can't see the clear difference I really can't help you:



This version was a 12 round wrecking machine with explosive knock out power. Clearly in better shape.

Stevenson outclassed a current top 5 ranked guy at cruiser, Bellew. And arguably loses to several guys at LHW.

[Cutthroat]

Sergey Kovalev himself would disagree with you and wouldn't even step into the ring with Usyk in an actual pro boxing bout. And for good reason too!

And injuries are usually experienced by boxers from time to time. Doesn't change the fact that Ward did no better against Kovalev or Froch, than Usyk did against Breidis.

And Usyk actually fought Breidis in his own backyard with a jet lag. So he was at a similar disadvantage as Ward was from his hand injury. And it's something Ward has never done (beating a top/elite opponent in their backyard). Till then, Usyk remains a superior WORLD / GLOBAL / INTERNATIONAL champion than your local American hero champion that is Andre Ward,

The last man to put Usyk down was a man by the name of Artur Beterbiev and he fights at LHW. Kovalev is a superior puncher to him, he has the power to hurt Uysk.

Uysk couldn't even stop Hunter and lost 4 rounds before he could adjust, and it took him 9 rounds to KO that 5'10 African that was already violently KO'd a few fights earlier, so get that idea of him stopping Kovalev out of your head.


Ward did waaay better vs Froch than Usyk did Briedis who was nowhere near any P4P lists whereas Kovalev was ranked in the top 5 by most people and Froch was on people's P4P lists as well. And did you really compare jet lag to a broken hand?



What would you rather have Mr. Objectivity?

[BM dnobagaV]

Ward arguably got outboxed by "2-punch Kovalev", yet Usyk hasn't lived up to his hype either.

It'd be a 50-50 fight. Neither guy supremely special.

[Curt Henning]

lolol

cutthroat out here murdering "mr objectivity"

mr objectivity is nothing more than ee fanboy/black fighter troll who cant apply anything equally...not a boxing fan...but a fan of race

[Curt Henning]

Ward arguably got outboxed by "2-punch Kovalev", yet Usyk hasn't lived up to his hype either.

It'd be a 50-50 fight. Neither guy supremely special.

you watch both fights? or just the first 6 rounds of the first one?

[Dip_Slide]

Bad fight for Ward, Usyk beats him rather easily.