Ward Beats Usyk

[Chollo Vista]

Clearly lost the first fight, 85% of all viewers thought so too.
Cheated in the second fight and had a ref that allowed him to do it with impunity. Ward is a fake, he knows it and true boxing fans know it.

Come on Mathed... Stop trying to undermine those legendary wins

[TheUptownKid]

I believe he is, and even If he wasnt the size would be too much. Ward wrestles with guys to control what they do, usyk is just a larger man with nearly every physical advantage. GAssiev, briedes, and usyk would bully him. I like ward but how he fights wouldn't work with bigger stronger guys

First don’t forget the Barrera fight and what he did to a slower opponent and it wasn’t hold. He just controlled distance and picked him apart.

Now the size would be a problem but it helps that he’s not a heavy hitter. But skill wise, I don’t even think it’s really close. Dre is one of the most seasoned vets in the game and he retired #1 p4p, no way is usyk more skilled.

[Dean_Razorback]

He was outboxed by a limited as hell Kovalev who practically has only two punches in his entire locker (Jab, straight right) and has no inside game.

Usyk is not only much bigger but has vastly superior footwork, ring generalship, combinations and counterpunching, a southpaw to boot.

How does Ward beat him? With lowblows and rabbit punching? Huck already tried that.

Usyk would beat the **** out of Ward.

all this. people forget that kovalev outboxed ward in the first fight, uzyk isn't just too big, but too good

[TheUptownKid]

Yes. usyk is also bigger and just as quick and athletic. It would be lomachenko vs rigo all over again.

Except ward was p4p #1 and showed up on several big stages in different weight classes. So no not really rigo. What makes you think usyk, who didn’t even look more skilled than briedis, has more skills than a future HOFer?

[TheUptownKid]

all this. people forget that kovalev outboxed ward in the first fight, uzyk isn't just too big, but too good

Stop it. He’s feather fisted and had a tough tough time tonight when fighting off the back foot. He throws a lot of punches and fast for his size but nothing Dre hasn’t seen before

[mathed]

Come on Mathed... Stop trying to undermine those legendary wins

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[Chollo Vista]

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85% of the boxing public thought Kovalev beat Ward?

Harold Ledderman has a great deal of influence over the boxing public, obviously.

Secondly, remember at the beginning of the 2nd fight when Weaks pointed to what was fair on Kovalev's trunks? Ward obviously hit the target Weaks pointed to, not making his shots low

[Johnston]

First don’t forget the Barrera fight and what he did to a slower opponent and it wasn’t hold. He just controlled distance and picked him apart.

Now the size would be a problem but it helps that he’s not a heavy hitter. But skill wise, I don’t even think it’s really close. Dre is one of the most seasoned vets in the game and he retired #1 p4p, no way is usyk more skilled.

You are right,And i'm not saying ward isn't one of the best boxers in the world but he's more of an intelligent boxer rather than supremely skilled. He finds ways to neutralize guys and use the advantages he has against them, but when your 5'11 with a 71" reach its gonna be hard to find ways to beat guys 6 '3 with a 78" reach advantage who are nearly as skilled as you are.That 25 pounds is a massive difference and we have no idea what his speed,cardio, and strength will look like. Jumping from 168 to 175 is nothing compared to 175 to 200

[Cutthroat]

Usyk struggles with Briedis and people think he handles Ward? Yikes.

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Im sure he does, probably even Kovalev does too.