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  • koolkc107
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    Manny Ducked 32 Different Men Over 38 Times?

    With all these threads about fights that should have happened and didn't, I think it is time to once again trot out this set of facts I compiled a while ago.

    By no means do I think that all or even most of these are real ducks.

    I am posting this to show that sometimes fights we really want to see do not happen even when everything says they should have.

    Make of it what you will...

    Dec 1998- Manny wins WBC flyweight title. Defends it twice and loses it by KO less than a year later. Spent at least 2 and a half years at flyweight.

    Flyweights he never fights:
    WBA champs Hugo Rafael Soto and Leo Gamez
    IBF champs Irene Pacheco and Mark “Too Sharp” Johnson
    WBO champs Ruben Sanchez Leon and Jose Lopez Bueno

    June 2001- Beats Ledwaba for IBF super bantamweight title. Defends it 4 times and spends 2 years at the weight.

    Super bantamweights he never fights:
    WBC champs Willie Jorrin and Oscar Larios (did fight him later)
    WBA champs Yober Ortega, Yoddamrong Sithyodthong, Osamu Sato and Salim Medjkoune WBO champs Marco Antonio Barrera (did fight him later) and Joan Guzman

    November 2003- Wins Ring featherweight title over MAB. Fights as super feather in loss to Eric Morales 3/05.

    Featherweights he never fights:
    WBC champ In-Jin Chi
    WBA champ Chris John
    WBO champ Scott Harrison

    March 2008- Beats JMM for Ring and WBC Super featherweight title. Fights as super featherweight from 3/05 to 3/08.

    Super featherweights he never fights:
    WBA champs Acelino Freitas , Yodsanan Sor Nanthachai, Vincente Moscera, and Edwin Valero, IBF champs Carlos Hernandez, Robbie Peden, Cassius Baloyi, Gairy St. Clair, Malcolm Klassen and Mzonke Fana, WBO champs Acelino Freitas, Diego Corrales, Mike Anchondo, Jorge Barrios, and Joan Guzman

    June 2008- Wins WBC lightweight title from David Diaz. Only lightweight fight he ever has.

    Lightweights he never fights:
    WBA champs Juan Diaz, Jose Alfaro, Yusuke Kobori, and Nate Campbell, IBF champs Juan Diaz and Nate Campbell
    WBO champs Juan Diaz and Nate Campbell


    And of course, the number can be even larger if you discuss his career above lightweight.

    There are some good names here, some that would have made intriguing AND lucrative fights.

    Would it be right to call some of these ducks?
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    #2
    Originally posted by koolkc107
    With all these threads about fights that should have happened and didn't, I think it is time to once again trot out this set of facts I compiled a while ago.

    By no means do I think that all or even most of these are real ducks.

    I am posting this to show that sometimes fights we really want to see do not happen even when everything says they should have.

    Make of it what you will...

    Dec 1998- Manny wins WBC flyweight title. Defends it twice and loses it by KO less than a year later. Spent at least 2 and a half years at flyweight.

    Flyweights he never fights:
    WBA champs Hugo Rafael Soto and Leo Gamez
    IBF champs Irene Pacheco and Mark “Too Sharp” Johnson
    WBO champs Ruben Sanchez Leon and Jose Lopez Bueno

    June 2001- Beats Ledwaba for IBF super bantamweight title. Defends it 4 times and spends 2 years at the weight.

    Super bantamweights he never fights:
    WBC champs Willie Jorrin and Oscar Larios (did fight him later)
    WBA champs Yober Ortega, Yoddamrong Sithyodthong, Osamu Sato and Salim Medjkoune WBO champs Marco Antonio Barrera (did fight him later) and Joan Guzman

    November 2003- Wins Ring featherweight title over MAB. Fights as super feather in loss to Eric Morales 3/05.

    Featherweights he never fights:
    WBC champ In-Jin Chi
    WBA champ Chris John
    WBO champ Scott Harrison

    March 2008- Beats JMM for Ring and WBC Super featherweight title. Fights as super featherweight from 3/05 to 3/08.

    Super featherweights he never fights:
    WBA champs Acelino Freitas , Yodsanan Sor Nanthachai, Vincente Moscera, and Edwin Valero, IBF champs Carlos Hernandez, Robbie Peden, Cassius Baloyi, Gairy St. Clair, Malcolm Klassen and Mzonke Fana, WBO champs Acelino Freitas, Diego Corrales, Mike Anchondo, Jorge Barrios, and Joan Guzman

    June 2008- Wins WBC lightweight title from David Diaz. Only lightweight fight he ever has.

    Lightweights he never fights:
    WBA champs Juan Diaz, Jose Alfaro, Yusuke Kobori, and Nate Campbell, IBF champs Juan Diaz and Nate Campbell
    WBO champs Juan Diaz and Nate Campbell


    And of course, the number can be even larger if you discuss his career above lightweight.

    There are some good names here, some that would have made intriguing AND lucrative fights.

    Would it be right to call some of these ducks?
    maybe some of them ,but its impossible to fight everybody

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    • daggum
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      #3
      yes the proof is in the pudding! he ducked everyone he didnt fight and even the guys he did fight he ducked before or after he fought them

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        #4
        I didn't bother reading because every fighter ducks another fighter it's just about the fanboys accepting it and not ignoring it.
        Floyd-margs, pwill, sexy Sergio
        SSM-pwill and others
        Sexy Sergio- that one Russian dude I can't think of his name and ggg
        GGG-Ward
        It happens to everyone man. It's part of the sport

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          #5
          Originally posted by daggum
          yes the proof is in the pudding! he ducked everyone he didnt fight and even the guys he did fight he ducked before or after he fought them
          Funny how you try and dismiss this but use the same **** for Floyd

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          • koolkc107
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            #6
            Keep in mind, this list includes ONLY champions Manny somehow didn't fight.

            Obviously, if highly ranked contenders were also included, the list would be significantly higher.

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              #7
              Originally posted by Fists_of_Fury
              Funny how you try and dismiss this but use the same **** for Floyd
              i dont pretend floyd ducked every single fight he didnt happen to fight. i also dont pretend he didnt duck guys he should have fought. also remember floyd was fighting on the "super level" where every fight was a mega fight for most of his career and he had his choice of opponents. a lot of these pac fights were not ppv level fights or even televised on american tv so its silly to say he ducked people because there simply was not the money to get the opponents.
              Last edited by daggum; 09-09-2017, 03:29 PM.

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              • daggum
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                #8
                Originally posted by Chuckguy
                I didn't bother reading because every fighter ducks another fighter it's just about the fanboys accepting it and not ignoring it.
                Floyd-margs, pwill, sexy Sergio
                SSM-pwill and others
                Sexy Sergio- that one Russian dude I can't think of his name and ggg
                GGG-Ward
                It happens to everyone man. It's part of the sport
                when did that happen??? also these guys are all in the same divisions and ggg-ward were not. if you look at the details of the ward offer he wanted ggg to postpone his wbc mandatory fight and fight him instead. why would he do that??? such a bigger fight. ward knew he would reject the offer and thats why he made it. if he really wanted to fight he would have offered to fight him right away not with tune ups.

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by daggum
                  yes the proof is in the pudding! he ducked everyone he didnt fight and even the guys he did fight he ducked before or after he fought them
                  Sometimes man, you deserve a medal.

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                    #10
                    Originally posted by Scary
                    Sometimes man, you deserve a medal.
                    only sometimes?

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