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  • Senor_frogs
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    #21
    Originally posted by rrayvez
    Not sure if Canelo has gotten better or if he's just been fighting guys like khan that make it appear as if he's gotten better. We'll find out in a week.
    Well, when everyone single boxing expert says he's improving. I think it's a pretty good indication he's improved.

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    • future hendrixx
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      #22
      part of me wants ggg to break hopkins record of defenses but canelo is in beast mode.

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      • Nomadic
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        #23
        Originally posted by Dle
        Sneaky Con secretly hoping Canelo gets floored, that why he's trying to encourage Canelo into engaging. You can't think that ggg is slipping just bcuz Jacobs practically dominated him. He was made for Jacobs. Now Jacobs knows it.
        In some ways, Khan was doing to Canelo what Jacobs was doing to GGG until he got caught.

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        • aboutfkntime
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          #24
          Originally posted by Senor_frogs
          Well, when everyone single boxing expert says he's improving. I think it's a pretty good indication he's improved.

          it is clearly obvious that he has improved

          he shows more to his game every single fight

          the guys who are desperately attempting to assure themselves that Canelo is the same..... have one more week to convince themselves

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            #25
            Originally posted by future hendrixx
            part of me wants ggg to break hopkins record of defenses but canelo is in beast mode.

            what part ?

            that gap between your legs ?

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            • sterilizer
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              #26
              Originally posted by bluepete
              This is what I wonder. Who is he fighting to prove he's getting better. Was he a better fighter against Lara than he was against Floyd? I don't think so. Is he better now than he was against Lara? How can we know? Kirkland and Khan doesn't give us any yardstick.
              Come on, are you serious?

              He was a gazillion times better vs. Lara than vs. Floyd. He learned a lot from facing a super-cowardly and tricky "defensive" fighter such as Floyd. He learned that it was 100% ****** to try and box the boxer-trickster, try to outrun the runner, try to outjab the jabber, try to out face-punch the face-puncher.

              He realized, pretty soon, that Lara is stylistically very similar to Floyd in that he is a cowardly fighter as well (although not even close as tricky and a cheater), so he decided not to try and outbox the boxer.

              He decided to take tons of blatant jabs to his face, but trade all those for lots of brutal body punches that the idiot did not EVEN TRY to land on Floyd at all, because he was too busy looking pathetic trying to hit him in the face, which is almost an impossible feat, except for truly gifted and super-fast fighters such as past Manny, who did hit Floyd in the face time and time again --but the sold-out judges did not do justice to this in the scorecards, neither did those clowns at Compubox.

              A similar thing happened to Canelo vs. Cotto. Instead of going to try and box him, which he realized he wouldn't be able to do that, same case as Lara and Floyd, he went for picking his spots and saving his energy, throwing lots of brutal power punches which only god knows why Cotto wasn't knocked down by, because those bunches of punches that Canelo connected on Cotto and stunned him real bad several times, should have KD Cotto more than once, but he showed a tremendous chin, and he was lucky as well that Canelo has a similar issue as GGG: he has very limited stamina and cannot go all the way, throwing punches non-stop until he finishes off his opponent, because his fuel tank empties pretty quickly. That is the reason why he didn't KO Cotto, simple as that, because he didn't have the stamina to complete the task when he stunned him real bad, which happened no less than three times during that fight.

              Bottom line, the Canelo that fought Lara and Cotto would have done WAY BETTER vs. Floyd than the inexperienced and naive --and drained to boot-- one that floyd was so smart to choose to fight.

              But, is this Canelo enough to defeat GGG? I don't think so. Canelo has never ever faced anyone that hits harder than him so far. And he has never ever faced anyone who hits jabs as precisely and as powerfully as actual power punches. He has never faced anyone who is actually physically stronger than him and is an expert at cutting off the ring and putting pressure all the time on his opponent.

              Just as he lacked the necessary experience to fight a cowardly defensive trickster as when he did fight Floyd, he doesn't have the experience to fight somebody like GGG. I predict his 2nd loss, this time by KO, or, if they go the distance, a robbery decision in favor of Canelo, after being KD at least once.
              Last edited by sterilizer; 09-09-2017, 05:15 PM.

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              • rrayvez
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                #27
                Originally posted by Senor_frogs
                Well, when everyone single boxing expert says he's improving. I think it's a pretty good indication he's improved.
                every single expert? Bit of an exaggeration. Pre Floyd I saw him look very good vs guys like baldomir and cintron. Post Floyd he looked good vs similar competition in Smith, khan and Chavez jr. Pre Floyd I saw him look mediocre vs trout, post Floyd he looked mediocre vs Lara and even cotto. So in short, he's always looked good vs b and c level guys, can he look elite vs other elite fighters is the question.

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                  #28
                  "Boxing ace Amir Khan".......all I need to see right there, lol.

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                    #29
                    When people just see how slow the diva is in the first round alone, before any real action takes place, I sense some sphincters are going to tighten up real quick.

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                    • MisanthropicNY
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                      #30
                      Originally posted by sterilizer
                      Come on, are you serious?

                      He was a gazillion times better vs. Lara than vs. Floyd. He learned a lot from facing a super-cowardly and tricky "defensive" fighter such as Floyd. He learned that it was 100% ****** to try and box the boxer-trickster, try to outrun the runner, try to outjab the jabber, try to out face-punch the face-puncher.

                      He realized, pretty soon, that Lara is stylistically very similar to Floyd in that he is a cowardly fighter as well (although not even close as tricky and a cheater), so he decided not to try and outbox the boxer.

                      He decided to take tons of blatant jabs to his face, but trade all those for lots of brutal body punches that the idiot did not EVEN TRY to land on Floyd at all, because he was too busy looking pathetic trying to hit him in the face, which is almost an impossible feat, except for truly gifted and super-fast fighters such as past Manny, who did hit Floyd in the face time and time again --but the sold-out judges did not do justice to this in the scorecards, neither did those clowns at Compubox.

                      A similar thing happened to Canelo vs. Cotto. Instead of going to try and box him, which he realized he wouldn't be able to do that, same case as Lara and Floyd, he went for picking his spots and saving his energy, throwing lots of brutal power punches which only god knows why Cotto wasn't knocked down by, because those bunches of punches that Canelo connected on Cotto and stunned him real bad several times, should have KD Cotto more than once, but he showed a tremendous chin, and he was lucky as well that Canelo has a similar issue as GGG: he has very limited stamina and cannot go all the way, throwing punches non-stop until he finishes off his opponent, because his fuel tank empties pretty quickly. That is the reason why he didn't KO Cotto, simple as that, because he didn't have the stamina to complete the task when he stunned him real bad, which happened no less than three times during that fight.

                      Bottom line, the Canelo that fought Lara and Cotto would have done WAY BETTER vs. Floyd than the inexperienced and naive --and drained to boot-- one that floyd was so smart to choose to fight.

                      But, is this Canelo enough to defeat GGG? I don't think so. Canelo has never ever faced anyone that hits harder than him so far. And he has never ever faced anyone who hits jabs as precisely and as powerfully as actual power punches. He has never faced anyone who is actually physically stronger than him and is an expert at cutting off the ring and putting pressure all the time on his opponent.

                      Just as he lacked the necessary experience to fight a cowardly defensive trickster as when he did fight Floyd, he doesn't have the experience to fight somebody like GGG. I predict his 2nd loss, this time by KO, or, if they go the distance, a robbery decision in favor of Canelo, after being KD at least once.
                      Stop making for excuses. Canelo knew boxing wasn't going to work against Floyd - and how many rounds does it take to realize that?

                      Canelo was afraid of getting countered and KO'd

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