Is there a legitimate notion in the GGG that he can't win on decision?

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  • j.razor
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    #11
    Originally posted by PK3434
    He can win a decision.

    But there has been so much weird scoring for Canelo in the past where it seems like more than just incompetence. Then there are other influences that can possibly but not likely come into play (Cartel bribes, etc). The bottom line is that these judges don't get paid much and are only human and are susceptible to outside influences.

    But I think Golovkin is a big enough star that judges won't be too worried about pleasing Golden Boy to get approved for future dates. I think that helps things for GGG a little.
    You might want to check the numbers buddy.

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    • mathed
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      #12
      Originally posted by Little Mac 91
      *In the GGG team as a whole was what the title was meant to say, and Sanchez in particular.

      Or is it just Abel talking for the sake of stirring up articles? Because if he or GGG really believe then it should not be taken casually and with a sense of defeatism but the case should be voiced over and over beforehand so as to give it attention and create an atmosphere where it becomes a serious argument that needs to be faced and refuted. Even if they can't unseat any judge or change anything atleast those allegations puts them on the defense, highligting the bias that may come.

      ...Or maybe the argument is leaning more on the side of a conspiracy thory after all and even if there is some su****ion they ultimately accept that the judging is most likely fair.

      But it would be incredibly ****** from Abel to just shrug it off and think "oh that's just the way it is", resolving his team to their fate and that there must be a stoppage/KO. Even if that outcome has always been the strength of GGG you don't do **** like that conceding advantages.

      And if Abel actually thinks this is a worthwile tradeoff in exchange for some kind of mindgame points where he gets to advocate GGG's knockout power and aggressivness he's clearly way lost crippling his fighter instead of defending him.
      Absolutely!! I mean, one of the judges gave Candelita the nod in the Mayweather fight....he won maybe 1 or 2 rds tops. I thought the Cotto fight was a lot closer than what it was, yet he wins a UD. ODLH knows that bribing the judges will be his only hope which is why GGG will go in there in destroyer mode and take the judges out of the equation.

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      • Derranged
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        #13
        If the fight is close and goes to the cards, I have a feeling Canelo will get the benefit of the doubt.

        But I don't think Golovkin is capable of outboxing Canelo anyway, unless Canelo gets hurt early and fights in survival mode for the rest of the fight. In my opinion its 50/50: Either Golovkin wins by late TKO or Canelo wins a clear decision.

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        • whoelsebutjames
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          #14
          Originally posted by j.razor
          That's the whole point, he can't box! Lol....the boy has pop & that's where it stops. He got outboxed by Jacobs, he was also getting outboxed by a welterweight till he busted his eye socket. He has to KO Nelo to win.
          Lol
          I wouldn't call him an elite boxer but I would say that he can box. He has that Eastern European fundamental style. To me he's like a limited Pirog. Pirog has one shot power. Golovkin doesn't. He has thudding power that gets you over time.

          He does a few boxing things well.

          1. Jabs to make the opponent move their feet
          2. He can do leaping hooks and rights, and punch where the opponents going to go. He's good at hitting a target when the opponent tries to use footwork

          Things I think he does bad
          1. Can't hit when there's a lot of head movement
          2. He doesn't box to keep create oppurnities, he waits until opponent looses focus
          3. won't takes risks. Ussually picks safest punch(jab)
          4 hasn't fought many guys that can throw a straight punch

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            #15
            Originally posted by Derranged
            If the fight is close and goes to the cards, I have a feeling Canelo will get the benefit of the doubt.

            But I don't think Golovkin is capable of outboxing Canelo anyway, unless Canelo gets hurt early and fights in survival mode for the rest of the fight. In my opinion its 50/50: Either Golovkin wins by late TKO or Canelo wins a clear decision.
            OK, you don't think that GGG is capable of outboxing Canelo... but what if GGG actually is outboxing Canelo?... then: does GGG get a decision or not???

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            • VatoMulatto
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              #16
              GGG will be the aggressor, dictate the fight and land big clean shots. If the fight somehow goes the distance GGG will win a UD.
              I don't think the judges will rob hm

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                #17
                Originally posted by MDPopescu
                OK, you don't think that GGG is capable of outboxing Canelo... but what if GGG actually is outboxing Canelo?... then: does GGG get a decision or not???
                I stick by what I said before: If the fight is close, Canelo gets the decision. If Golovkin dominates, I think at least two judges will give him a fair shake.

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                  #18
                  Originally posted by j.razor
                  That's the whole point, he can't box! Lol....the boy has pop & that's where it stops. He got outboxed by Jacobs, he was also getting outboxed by a welterweight till he busted his eye socket. He has to KO Nelo to win.
                  GGG folding that WW up as he smacks him all over the ring en route to a 5thround TKO.


                  GGG after the Jacobs fight:


                  Jacobs after the fight:

                  Why the need for the glasses, it dark?

                  JAcobs got out landed by about 70 shots total, out jabbed by almost 100 jabs; knocked down. The stats don't support your case.

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                  • MDPopescu
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                    #19
                    Originally posted by Derranged
                    I stick by what I said before: If the fight is close, Canelo gets the decision. If Golovkin dominates, I think at least two judges will give him a fair shake.
                    ... I see... Then you assume that there will be the usual "Canelo judging"... OK...

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                    • MDPopescu
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                      #20
                      Originally posted by mathed
                      GGG folding that WW up as he smacks him all over the ring en route to a 5thround TKO.


                      GGG after the Jacobs fight:


                      Jacobs after the fight:

                      Why the need for the glasses, it dark?

                      JAcobs got out landed by about 70 shots total, out jabbed by almost 100 jabs; knocked down. The stats don't support your case.
                      ... but Jacobs clearly outperformed... tbh...

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