No, Mayweather beats the overrated, hype job at 147 or 154 and this is coming from a non-Floyd fan.
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Sergio Martinez would of whooped Floyd mayweather
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Sergio Martinez wouldnt have done ****, he would just be another great fighter floyd beat and people would make excuses again
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Originally posted by ADP02 View PostMan, I must have ESP ... I knew you would DEFLECT and bring up non-relevant topics.
Also, your other deflection:
Are you now talking about Floyd? Floyd opened his mouth but when Sergio was OK to come down in weight, then Floyd said, Sergio go take on Dirrell at 168.
Same thing with Paul Williams who said:
"“I don’t think Floyd Mayweather will fight me any time,” Williams told the Examiner’s Michael Marley. “Manny Pacquiao, he might do it, he might step up but not Floyd. I guess Floyd won’t fight me because I don’t have a vagina.”"
.Originally posted by travestyny View PostYou're a liar and a scumbag. Williams didn't call Floyd a vagina. He said, "He won't fight me because I don't have a vagina." That could be a dig at domestic issues, but what we do know is that Paul Williams, like I said, stated very clearly that Floyd did NOT duck him. Who the **** are you to say that he's giving a political answer. Now you're in his head and are able to read his mind for your own bltch a$$ agenda? This is a man who was paralyzed and told everyone in the world not to be sad for him and that he doesn't feel bad for himself. Maybe you think that's a political answer and he's crying himself to bed at night, and publicly trying to be nice to everyone about everything instead of being honest? You are NOT allowed to tell people what the **** they are thinking, ****head. If there is anything that he deserves is the right for his word to be taken at face value. Of course he wanted a fight with Floyd at that time. Who didn't? He realized later that the time wasn't right.
Liar. Check below, and then let's watch you DEFLECT you little bltch.
Williams called out Pacquiao too, ****less. Why are you deflecting from that?
Floyd ducked Margarito? Also proven false, ****head. He bought out his contract instead because for one he wasn't ready to fight at the time of it and the buyout clause was to expire before he was ready to fight. Arum stated clearly that he refused raising the guarantees in the contract, but yea, you don't care about facts, do you?
Oh really? Liar. He was interviewed and said he would fight Martinez at 150 until his team told him to sit down and shut his dumb ass up!
That was after the Margarito fight. Here is Sergio agreeing to it.
Like I said, you little bltch. It was his team protecting him. Just like they protected him by saying he's afraid of needles. Manny was nothing but a pawn with Arum pulling the strings, so you've basically been sucking Arum's ass believing everything he says and buying into the myth of Manny.
How does it feel to be proven wrong yet again, chump?
1) If you go back a couple of posts(see below), I already mentioned that quote!
Originally posted by ADP02 View PostMan, I must have ESP ... I knew you would DEFLECT and bring up non-relevant topics.
Also, your other deflection:
Are you now talking about Floyd? Floyd opened his mouth but when Sergio was OK to come down in weight, then Floyd said, Sergio go take on Dirrell at 168.
Same thing with Paul Williams who said:
"“I don’t think Floyd Mayweather will fight me any time,” Williams told the Examiner’s Michael Marley. “Manny Pacquiao, he might do it, he might step up but not Floyd. I guess Floyd won’t fight me because I don’t have a vagina.”"
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2) What I said DEFLECTOR is that it does NOT disqualify what P Williams said before and that he called Floyd out and said that Floyd was basically ducking Williams!!!! CHUMP!!!
"Floyd won't fight me"
"Manny Pacquiao, he might do it, he might step up but not Floyd."
"If Floyd went to Al and said, "Hey, I want to fight Paul Williams, what can Al do? But Floyd is not going to ever say that. Pacquiao, he fights bigger guys, he's different than Mayweather so maybe I will get to fight him."
SO AGAIN, P Williams is calling Floyd a DUCKER!!!
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a) Floyd was interviewed after the Margarito scandal and Floyd said he didn't want to fight Margarito because he knew that there was something fishy about Margarito.
So YES Floyd "Nostradamus" Mayweather DUCKED!
b) When they approached Canelo to fight on Floyd's undercard vs Trout, Canelo wanted a guarantee that if he wins, in that Floyd is his next opponent.
Floyd and his fans basically laughed and said that is not the way it works. One fight has nothing to do with another future fight.
Floyd and his fans said: Canelo needs to think of one fight at a time and beat Trout before that fight between Floyd and Canelo can even be discussed.
Yet, Floyd fans have amnesia, I see.
To fight Margarito, you are saying that ALL the stars had to align.
c) Arum had Margarito waiting it out with no fight because they wanted that fight with Floyd. Floyd pulled some excuses (injury) initially. Arum was to give Floyd $8 million and which was well over anything that Floyd had received up to that point!!!
YET: Floyd DUCKs Margs altogether.
Here you go/ Arum would have given Floyd his biggest pay day yet what does Floyd do?:
" In 2006, Floyd was set to fight Antonio Margarito and was going to make a cool $8,000,000 for the bout. Instead, Floyd decided to put a $750,000 bet on himself by exercising a provision in his contract."
Martinez called Manny out then comes the interviews and Manny responds as he did but the reality is what I stated. Manny was preparing to fight Marquez and then Bradley and what happened? You think after that Manny was going to fight Martinez, anyhow you look at it?
BUT like I said now 6 or 7 times man, the below says it all about going above 147 after Margarito.
Here is an interview that pretty much explains what I said and this is 2016. Look at Manny's face when he recollects the only time that he went above 147!!!!!!
MANNY PACQUIAO SHUTSDOWN CANELO FIGHT RUMORS!! ADMITS HE'S TOO "BIG" RECALLS MARGARITO FIGHT!!!
2 min mark:
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Originally posted by Elroy The Great View Postslow, predictable caveman margacheato (5'11'' 73'')
gave paul fits.
may (5'8'' 72'') would have done better than margacheato.
dont give me the ''triangular theories dont work'' crap.
''but, but, why couldnt vernon beat caveman mayorga ?''
''why did pac, ssm, cotto beat margarito (and may beat pac, ssm, cotto) ?''
in a couple of isolated triangular fights do the matches not make sense (ali/frazier/foreman, hagler/hearns/srl/duran).
paul is given credit for being a lanky guy who doesnt stop throwing punches. too bad for him he wasnt the hardest guy to hit. equally bad for paul was he often smothered his own punches with his clumsy game plan. he never learned (porter is on the same road).
may would have found a way of beating paul, imho.
Floyd has a low work rate.
Also Williams had amazing stamina which is why he could throw so many punches.
With his height, reach and being a southpaw, it would also pose a huge problem for Floyd's defense.
Williams said that he knew (bigger than Floyd) Winky's defense was amazing but if Williams did his thing and threw a ton of punches there would be punches getting thru and that is what happened.
"If Paul Williams thought the world's top boxers were scared of him before, just wait until they see the holes he punched in Winky Wright's once-impenetrable defense.
Williams worked Wright like a heavy bag with hundreds of relentless blows, earning an emphatic victory by unanimous decision Saturday night in a meeting of two much-avoided middleweights"
"With so many punches to block, Wright (51-5-1) simply didn't have time to land enough scoring blows against his much taller, longer opponent. Williams barely appeared tired by the closing bell, chasing Wright around the ring up to the final seconds ....
"I felt like I did in the first round in the 12th," Williams said. "That was because of my hard training, and running seven miles a day. It helped my breathing."
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Originally posted by ADP02 View PostDEFLECTOR STRIKES AGAIN!!!!
1) If you go back a couple of posts(see below), I already mentioned that quote!
2) What I said DEFLECTOR is that it does NOT disqualify what P Williams said before and that he called Floyd out and said that Floyd was basically ducking Williams!!!! CHUMP!!!
"Floyd won't fight me"
"Manny Pacquiao, he might do it, he might step up but not Floyd."
"If Floyd went to Al and said, "Hey, I want to fight Paul Williams, what can Al do? But Floyd is not going to ever say that. Pacquiao, he fights bigger guys, he's different than Mayweather so maybe I will get to fight him."
SO AGAIN, P Williams is calling Floyd a DUCKER!!!
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a) Floyd was interviewed after the Margarito scandal and Floyd said he didn't want to fight Margarito because he knew that there was something fishy about Margarito.
So YES Floyd "Nostradamus" Mayweather DUCKED!
b) When they approached Canelo to fight on Floyd's undercard vs Trout, Canelo wanted a guarantee that if he wins, in that Floyd is his next opponent.
Floyd and his fans basically laughed and said that is not the way it works. One fight has nothing to do with another future fight.
Floyd and his fans said: Canelo needs to think of one fight at a time and beat Trout before that fight between Floyd and Canelo can even be discussed.
Yet, Floyd fans have amnesia, I see.
To fight Margarito, you are saying that ALL the stars had to align.
c) Arum had Margarito waiting it out with no fight because they wanted that fight with Floyd. Floyd pulled some excuses (injury) initially. Arum was to give Floyd $8 million and which was well over anything that Floyd had received up to that point!!!
YET: Floyd DUCKs Margs altogether.
Here you go/ Arum would have given Floyd his biggest pay day yet what does Floyd do?:
" In 2006, Floyd was set to fight Antonio Margarito and was going to make a cool $8,000,000 for the bout. Instead, Floyd decided to put a $750,000 bet on himself by exercising a provision in his contract."
Martinez called Manny out then comes the interviews and Manny responds as he did but the reality is what I stated. Manny was preparing to fight Marquez and then Bradley and what happened? You think after that Manny was going to fight Martinez, anyhow you look at it?
BUT like I said now 6 or 7 times man, the below says it all about going above 147 after Margarito.
Here is an interview that pretty much explains what I said and this is 2016. Look at Manny's face when he recollects the only time that he went above 147!!!!!!
MANNY PACQUIAO SHUTSDOWN CANELO FIGHT RUMORS!! ADMITS HE'S TOO "BIG" RECALLS MARGARITO FIGHT!!!
2 min mark:
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1. So you admit that you misquoted Paul Williams. Did he call Floyd a vagina, or did you lie? Let's hear you say you lied, bltch.
2. Again, you are not allowed to say what you think PWilliams was thinking. It is a FACT that he went on record saying Floyd did not duck him. You been deflecting from this a whole lot and making up your own agenda about his true thoughts. You little bltch.
3. Already showed you that even Arum said Floyd would fight Margarito but Floyd preferred at the time to buy out his contract. Then he went on to make more money than Arum was offering for those same fights. Aren't you tired of getting the shlt beat out of you by me? All you do is give your own conjecture. I provide facts. You should try it.
4. Read carefully and stop ducking and deflecting little guy. DID MANNY PACQUIAO SAY THAT HE WOULD FIGHT MARTINEZ AT 150? YES OR NO? Tell me what he said in that video without deflecting and without saying "but but but..."
OH...BONUS QUESTION FOR YOU: Did Pacquiao duck Paul Williams at 147? Yes or no and why?
YOU WERE EXPOSED, DEFLECTING BlTCH!
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Originally posted by ADP02 View PostBUT as I said already 5 times, Manny was interviewed and said that he is no longer moving up above 147!!! Capisce? Entiende? Understand? Verstehen? Понимаю? Comprenez vous?
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OOPS!
AT THE TIME THAT THE MARTINEZ FIGHT WAS BEING DISCUSSED, REFERRING SPECIFICALLY TO THE MARTINEZ FIGHT:
Originally posted by Sergio MartinezHe always said 150, and I respect his position, because he is a little fighter even at 150. But it's going to play to his advantage because I'll be almost ten kilos lighter in my body. "
It's one thing is to fight Antonio Margarito at 150, and another thing to face me at 150,"
Now you want to show a video from 2016 referring to Canelo??? But but but, I thought you said PWill wasn't allowed to change his mind in subsequent videos, but now Pacquiao can change his mind in subsequent videos? He said he was willing to fight him at 150 AFTER having fought Margarito, right? Rightttt???? Admit that you were wrong, bltch. Come on, you should be used to this by now!
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Originally posted by ADP02 View PostPaul Williams thru tons of punches and would not be concerned about Floyd's which are mostly pitty pat returns. That was his style.
Floyd has a low work rate.
Also Williams had amazing stamina which is why he could throw so many punches.
With his height, reach and being a southpaw, it would also pose a huge problem for Floyd's defense.
Williams said that he knew (bigger than Floyd) Winky's defense was amazing but if Williams did his thing and threw a ton of punches there would be punches getting thru and that is what happened.
"If Paul Williams thought the world's top boxers were scared of him before, just wait until they see the holes he punched in Winky Wright's once-impenetrable defense.
Williams worked Wright like a heavy bag with hundreds of relentless blows, earning an emphatic victory by unanimous decision Saturday night in a meeting of two much-avoided middleweights"
"With so many punches to block, Wright (51-5-1) simply didn't have time to land enough scoring blows against his much taller, longer opponent. Williams barely appeared tired by the closing bell, chasing Wright around the ring up to the final seconds ....
"I felt like I did in the first round in the 12th," Williams said. "That was because of my hard training, and running seven miles a day. It helped my breathing."
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Originally posted by travestyny View PostOOPS!
AT THE TIME THAT THE MARTINEZ FIGHT WAS BEING DISCUSSED, REFERRING SPECIFICALLY TO THE MARTINEZ FIGHT:
Now you want to show a video from 2016 referring to Canelo??? But but but, I thought you said PWill wasn't allowed to change his mind in subsequent videos, but now Pacquiao can change his mind in subsequent videos? He said he was willing to fight him at 150 AFTER having fought Margarito, right? Rightttt???? Admit that you were wrong, bltch. Come on, you should be used to this by now!
Did Manny say during the Margarito training camp that he would not go over 147? Did he say that? Yes and Manny never went above!!
Did YOU IGNORE the video that I just posted where Manny said to you straight in your face that he did it once against Margarito and that he is too small to face them ........... DEFLECTOR!!!!
In that or another interview, Manny said that he was happy to finally be able to fight someone his own size!!!
What happened in the Marquez fight?
That is why it's useless replying to you! YOU JUST DEFLECT at ALL COST!!!!
Just admit that you are wrong or just move on BUT NO, even when you are clearly WRONG, you bring up something that simply does NOT change the facts of what Manny said AND DID!!!
Manny NEVER went above 147 again .... so being that is the case PLUS saying and realizing that he is too small to move up, you cannot be DUCKING!!!!
DEFLECTOR ANSWER THIS SIMPLE QUESTION:
BUT why are you not calling Floyd the DUCKER since he fought and won a title at 154 BEFORE, DURING and AFTER being called out by Paul Williams and Sergio Martinez and as you know, there would be no roadblocks with Paul Williams due them having the same advisor!!!!
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Originally posted by Elroy The Great View Postand
Where an opponent would miss Floyd by an inch or two, Paul Williams 79" reach PLUS height extension would catch Floyd. To put that into perspective, Manny's reach is about 67" and Floyd's is about 72".
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