"Toney Turns Down $1.5m To Fight Klitschko"

[Derranged]

toney doesn't seem like the sharpest tool in the shed by any means, but he isn't so ****** to take a fight agaisnt a guy who has a serious chance at ending his career or at least his contention for a title for only 1.5 million in which he'd probably get a bit more than half after taxes and fees if he's lucky. the only way i see toney taking a fight against klitchko is if he's getting around 4-5 million. now wether or no he deserves that amount is a different thing.

I agree, Toney is a big name AND he get a serious ass whippin. He should get more money.

[Leo Pradun]

A bigger draw thats why Ruiz-Toney only sold 6,000 tickets at MSG, while Wladimir-Byrd in Germany sold out and made the two fighters $18,000,000.

I don't think you understand that the entire Russian/Ukranian population of Brooklyn and NYC is going to go see Wladimir-Toney, for Wladimir, not to see fat ass Toney.

ye, everyone knows that in order to get paid u gotta fight Klitschko in Germany...

[Leo Pradun]

No the keyword is MSG, people in NY have better things to do with their money. The reason why boxing matches are succesful in Vegas is people that go there want to be entertained, and often buy these tickets as part of their plans to visit. People in New York are not ****** enough to buy in to fat-ass Toney.

I think you underestimate the slavic population in New York, its well over a million. Wladimir would be the draw at MSG, not Toney.

100% agreed, I live in New York, so many slavik people all over new york, people in ny would go to see wlad fight not toney, I think NY is a second home for the Klitschkos fanwise...
Klitschko Peter almost sold out...

[Leo Pradun]

I was talking about Toney/Wlad fight being the biggest fight.

I think the overrated one is Wlad, not Toney/Rahman.

wladimir klitschko is the biggest name in the heavyweights,no matter where he fights people will come to see him, and thats a fact, dont even try to argue...

[GunStar]

wladimir klitschko is the biggest name in the heavyweights,no matter where he fights people will come to see him, and thats a fact, dont even try to argue...

Germany yes, US no!

[Derranged]

I believe Toney received 2.1 Million for the Rahman fight, and Byrd just got 2.5 Million fighting Wlad.

This is a low ball offer, and I'm sure if the fight is seriously being discussed there will be counter offers made.

********** loves to fire things up with these reports about money.

The location would be another key in the purse alotments for this fight. Are they talking Germany or the US?

I'll be looking for the 'more details to follow' part. This is premature heresay.

The fight is supposed to be in Madison Square Garden. Its good to see that someone is posting with some reason, not just exploding at Wladimir.

[beez721]

Toney needs to understand that when you show up way overweight and turn in a second rate performance then it lessens the value of your purse. When you use steroids in preparation for a title fight and get banned and suspended, then it lessens your value as a fighter.

It's an agonizingly simple concept that some folks are struggling with.

Why is that? They have an undying need to praise Toney and hate on Wlad. Several posters here post by those simple rules: Gunstar, Bloodshed, Bozo, etc.

This is the second time that Toney has been offered a title shot by a Klitschko and turned it down. He likes to talk a lot of smack to Greg and on BDSSP, but as for getting in the ring and backing it up...whoa, now. That's a different story. Hehe.

Let's face it. If Toney thought he had a chance to beat Wlad and obtain the IBF title, then he'd sign in two seconds. Just like when Vitali offered Toney a 60/40 split for a shot at the WBC title last year, he turned it down immediately. Getting a shot at a HW title isn't to be scoffed at. You obtain a title and you make more money, call the shots, etc. Toney would fight them in a millisecond if he thought he could win. He knows he can't, so he didn't sign. Simple. He needs money that will compensate him for taking an embarassing beating and maybe ending his career. 1.5M isn't enough for that. But 1.5M is MORE than enough to offer a contender a THIRD title shot when he's failed in his previous two attempts. Toney likes his chances against the Rahman/Maskaev winner more than Wlad.

I really don't understand why you guys are making it more complicated than it is. It's so simple and straight-forward. Toney is an open and shut case of a big mouth professional who knows how to stick around in the game and remain relevant amid poor performances and big losses. He's made a career out of it. Let's face it.

yepper. well stated

[Bozo_no no]

This is the second time that Toney has been offered a title shot by a Klitschko and turned it down.
Let's face it. If Toney thought he had a chance to beat Wlad and obtain the IBF title, then he'd sign in two seconds. Just like when Vitali offered Toney a 60/40 split for a shot at the WBC title last year, he turned it down immediately.

Leave it to you to come in talking from right out of your Anus.

Toney was offered 65-35 split agaisnt Vitali and turned it down. He counter offered with 60-40 and was told "Sorry, we're already to far along in negotiations with Oleg Maskaev".

You have no idea what you're talking about as per usual.

Once again you come running in nut hugging a white fighter, and displaying that you have none of your information right.

You need to find something more constructive to do with your time than continiously illustrate how ignorant you are.

[!! Mr. Soprano]

I'm from NYC. Toney hits harder then Bird, it's not that hard to stop Wlad with his bad stamina & bad chin.

And Byrd was sooo close to stoping Wlad right?

[GunStar]

And Byrd was sooo close to stoping Wlad right?

No but Birds friend Dave Chapple did, remember that fight.