Where do you rate Floyd in ATG p4p list?

[BIG GUNZ]

It seems the ones that know most about boxing put him in the bottom of the top 10 or somewhere in the top 15-20. Which sounds about right. If he fought a lot more guys while in their primes & beat them all he would likely be in the top 5.

[sunny31]

I always say the same. For talent...top 10 probably top 5.

For achievements - top 20. He has huge depth to his resume, but to me he doesn't have those one or two special wins against prime HOF/ATG's on his resume, and that has to count against him in such an argument. He needed a killer or two at their very best. He just missed the window with a prime Oscar or Shane and that whole welterweight era.

Had he fought and beat Winky at 154lbs when it was mooted (around 2006 I believe) then that would have been a win which I would classify as one of those special one's. Obviously Pac in 2009-2010 is a big miss.

For those fanboys who like getting their panties in a twist - I am not blaming Floyd for any of the above fights not happening nor do I give a ****. I am just saying that they didn't happen and for the purposes of Floyd's legacy, it would have put him further up in my opinion had they happened, or happened when those fighters were in their prime.

[DJ Enerate]

Top 25/30 in greatness.
Top 15 in talent/skill.
Top 5 defensive master.

[BrometheusBob.]

I think most people see him in the range of 10-20 based on the several other threads I've seen on this topic.

Virtual consensus outside a few salty apples that he's top 30 at worst.

[turnedup]

If I had to list him right now, top 15, possibly top 10. The thing is you have to let that discussion marinate. Come back to it a few years later after retirement and see how its held up or if you still view him the same way.

[uppercut510]

not to be an A hole but u know there are like 9 threads on this topic already?

[Joe Beamish]

Yeah, this is the 100th thread on this topic.

I'll say top 30-50. Which is very, very high.

There have been a lot of great boxers. Floyd is great, too. But he doesn't have wins against great opponents in their prime like some guys do.

[Johnny2x2x]

If I had to list him right now, top 15, possibly top 10. The thing is you have to let that discussion marinate. Come back to it a few years later after retirement and see how its held up or if you still view him the same way.

Time will view his achievements very favorably IMO. Right now his resume is held to a higher standard than any fighter in history. If we took a razor to SRR's and SRL's resumes we find ***** too. Time will allow him to be judged to the same standard as any other top fighter.

[Doctor_Tenma]

I honestly don't know but in terms of skills, I have Mayweather up there with Pernell Whitaker and Roberto Duran. How he adjusted his style as he aged may not be exciting to some but it's high level stuff, that check hook he used against the ropes to reroute Pacquiao right whilst he slid left was fuckin' crazy. Now in terms of being a professional, always in shape, that's another thing to consider.

[soul_survivor]

Top 30-25. I can't have him higher and most definitely not above the number 20 mark.