he definitive guide to Arum ducking fighters and spreading lies

[GhostofDempsey]

By Bob's own admission several times stating making an outdoor stadium, Pacquiao is afraid of needles and Pacquiao needing a cut off date ahead of time for the drug testing get your still shifting it on Floyd who's obviously talking in revisionist history since the fight did earn more and was more anticipated several years later vs when it first started brewing!

You must be Top Pranks paid troll!

I hope Bob is giving you guy's full dental and retirement benefits for y'all undying loyalty to the old fart!

If you read enough of my posts you would know I am not loyal to any promoter unlike you Floyd cheerleaders. No revising of history. The admission came straight from Floyd's mouth.

Your bitterness at Floyd leads your to these embarrassing lengths to besmirch him.

Spoken like a jilted school girl.

I know the truth hurts. Try to take it like a man. Floyd himself admitted he marinated the fight for years. Go have yourself a good cry now.

[whoelsebutjames]

By Bob's own admission several times stating making an outdoor stadium, Pacquiao is afraid of needles and Pacquiao needing a cut off date ahead of time for the drug testing get your still shifting it on Floyd who's obviously talking in revisionist history since the fight did earn more and was more anticipated several years later vs when it first started brewing!

You must be Top Pranks paid troll!

I hope Bob is giving you guy's full dental and retirement benefits for y'all undying loyalty to the old fart!

The problem is for too long these clowns have influenced the media through bullying, spam, and through misinformation. And those of us, who actually read the articles and not just the headlines and opinion threads have watched them lie after lie.

The majority of boxing articles are spam not journalism. The talkative guys like side show Bob, just talk talk talk. And the journalist just post post post. And eventually up is down and left is right by sheer volume. Just like how the paid top rank spammers crowd every thread with their offf topic opinions.

5 minute 10 seconds.


Atlas near the end of clip.


Here's HBO Kellerman saying there's an argument for Pacquiao to be the best of the era. Apparently, because he faced Arum manufactured fighters like Clottey, Margarito, and Algeri. Because in reality he just re-beat Mayweathers opponents. More hype machine.

[whoelsebutjames]

By Floyd's own admission he didn't fight Pac sooner because he wanted to marinate the fight to generate more interest. He admits he stalled it for 5 years and then tried to take credit for being some sort of clairvoyant who could have predicted it would be worth $400M.

By Bobs own admission he paid bribes. Lol

He had a moment of weakness. And he forgot about his Harvard Law Degree and serving as an attorney for Robert Kennedy. You know, the former US Attorney General and the most famous president, in recent history's little brother.

Floyd made something out of nothing. Side show Bob started out educated gained prestige and then decided he wanted to talk like a wise guy for a living.

Um I've already told you multiple times that Arum is no good. My point has been you are just out of line blaming Mayweather's issues on Arum slandering and what not. You also have not answered my questions not provided evidence for your assertion that Arum fighters are always ducking

The trolls ruined my thread and then left... lmao. So messed up.


Over a period of 40 years in the sport, Arum has worked with the likes of Muhammad Ali, George Foreman and Sugar Ray Leonard. But he had an unlikely start in boxing. Back in 1961, Arum was a government lawyer working for Robert Kennedy's Justice Department. He had been ordered to seize the money from a crooked fight.
At RFK's direction, he had seized the assets from the first Floyd Patterson-Sonny Liston fight that had been promoted by Roy Cohn. Kennedy had learned that Cohn planned to put Patterson's purse in a Swiss bank account and pay him in installments over 17 years.
Arum left the government not long after the assassination, but his connections to President Kennedy weren't totally severed. He joined the powerful New York law firm of Phillip, Nizer, Benjamin, Krim and Ballon.
One of the firm's senior partners, Louis Nizer, was recruited to write the foreword to the Warren Commission report.
Arum said he hadn't planned a career in the ring, but then the nation of Islam hired him to be Muhammad Ali's lawyer.


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Side show Bob is a well decorated man, Harvard graduate with cum laude honors, and former us attorney for Robert Kennedy. But paying bribes was a mistake. Lol

[jmrf4435]

That's a fair point about Pacquiao, I arbitrarily used the date. This wasn't a Pacquiao diss as I don't beleive Pacquiao controls his marchmatking. Pacquiao just needs the money to fund his causes in the phillipines- hence why he's always under multiple contract extentions with Arum, rather than negotiate himself better terms. Just like when he tried to sign to delhloya for 300k turned around and signed to Bob for 500k.

This post is about Arum. Arum constantly shreds and slanders every fighter that doesn't belong him. Arums fighters don't ussually fight dangerous opponents themselves--but he give them the reputation of dangerous in order to manuever himself into more money via public opinion.

He uses the excuse other fighters want too much money so that he can duck fighters who aren't willing to be fleeced in the negotiations-- while calling everybody a duck.

When a fight is proposed with any non top rank fighter-- Arum says the same thing. Couldn't do it --THEY WANT MILLIONS.

When Arum starts slandering a fighter for some reason it sticks. The media runs with whatever label he gives them.

Do you work LOL. Arum is a slave driver, it's the boxing tradition. You profit as much as possible of your fighters, even if it means soft competition for most of their career. Then when they are no longer profitable, you throw them away like he did with pacman.

Why does that shock you?This is the sleaziest sport known to man.

[jmrf4435]

What is you role with TMT?

I find it hard a person would go to this length to defend Floyd, without having at least something in return???????????????????????????????????????????? ???

I mean, I hope to god

[maracho]

By Bobs own admission he paid bribes. Lol

He had a moment of weakness. And he forgot about his Harvard Law Degree and serving as an attorney for Robert Kennedy. You know, the former US Attorney General and the most famous president, in recent history's little brother.

Floyd made something out of nothing. Side show Bob started out educated gained prestige and then decided he wanted to talk like a wise guy for a living.

Didn't Floyd have uncle Roger and Ped guru Don Hale , which is how he was able to drop out of highschool without a job.

But then for some strange reason Floyd went and got his first big opportunity from that rotten briber Bob Arum. At least now he's working for Al Haymon the guy who helped Beyonce's Dad rip her off

But then I don't hear about the Arums beating up a bunch of girlfriends, baby mommas and grandmas

Mayweather Productions made over $100 million last saturday to fight a dude with a record of 0-1 but paid co-main event fighter Fransisco Fonteca $35,000 to get robbed via a couple hits to the back of the head by a little monster.

[whoelsebutjames]

Do you work LOL. Arum is a slave driver, it's the boxing tradition. You profit as much as possible of your fighters, even if it means soft competition for most of their career. Then when they are no longer profitable, you throw them away like he did with pacman.

Why does that shock you?This is the sleaziest sport known to man.

Didn't Floyd have uncle Roger and Ped guru Don Hale , which is how he was able to drop out of highschool without a job.

But then for some strange reason Floyd went and got his first big opportunity from that rotten briber Bob Arum. At least now he's working for Al Haymon the guy who helped Beyonce's Dad rip her off

But then I don't hear about the Arums beating up a bunch of girlfriends, baby mommas and grandmas

Mayweather Productions made over $100 million last saturday to fight a dude with a record of 0-1 but paid co-main event fighter Fransisco Fonteca $35,000 to get robbed via a couple hits to the back of the head by a little monster.

Bob Arum is a megolmaniac. If he ever shut up, none of this information would be public in the first place. But he has to tell you how smart he is, because that's his nature. For instance.....
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"Top Rank promoter Bob Arum said that Manny Pacquiao should blame himself for his painful loss against the Australian boxer Jeff Horn.

Bob Arum said that the Filipino boxer has no one to blame for his loss but himself and said that he already warned Pacman. He also claimed that the overconfidence of Pacman’s team did not help the boxer.

Arum also explained that the team didn’t help the Filipino boxing icon by boasting of an easy victory over the undefeated Horn. He also explained that Horn was a competent fighter as he watched its fight in New Zealand .

https://philnews.ph/2017/07/05/manny-pacquiao-blame-loss-bob-arum-says/

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Bobs always blaming somebody for something. It's his team. It's ariza. It's roach. It's Haymon. He's always pointing fingers. What's the big deal if I point the finger at him for once ?

He says he watched Horn. This is misleading. He signed Horn for his US rights. You'd have to read a dozen articles on the subject to be aware of it.

Professional Boxing writers are well aware of things like this, and everything else I posted in the thread and more. Yet they still promote any lies that come out of Arums mouth- unquestioned Why don't they dissect Arum, the same way they dissect fighters personal lives ??? Idk. Maybe theirs a conflict of interest?? Lol Either way, that's not fair and unbiased coverage.

Second. As Pacquiao promoter I beleive he should be representing pacquaios promotioonal interest. How is this article helpings Pacquiaos career? Telling him in private is helping. Telling him in public is shifting the blame from his company to his client. He takes at least 40% of Pacquiaos money gk damage his reputation as a fighter. Lol

You guys are welcome to state your opinion. This is America and that's your right. i don't care what you think of him, thats your right. One thing I did notice is nobody posted anything showing that Bobs a decent guy??
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http://www.espn.com/blog/dan-rafael/...clude-pacquiao

Arum told ESPN he has big plans for Horn next year in the United States.

Arum has Horn, who represented Australia in the 2012 Olympics, in mind as the next opponent for either Timothy Bradley Jr. or Jessie Vargas, both Top Rank fighters and former welterweight titleholders.
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Here's Arum planning to manufacture another fighter with his Paper Mill. He can get anybody a resume in anytime if you actually beleive that half his fighters are worth a damn in the first place

Yet, Horn didn't face Vargas of Bradley. He went straight to Pacquiao. Here's why.

Pacquiao’s contract with Top Rank is said to have expired at the end of 2016.
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MANNY Pacquiao insisted the recent fight he had against Jeff Horn for the World Boxing Organization (WBO) welterweight title was his last under his current contract with Top Rank.

http://www.spin.ph/boxing/manny-pacquiao/news/manny-pacquiao-not-looking-of-going-elsewhere-despite-insisting-jeff-horn-fight-was-his-last-with-top-rank-#Bghyd9XzcwqdrFzP.99

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.... Its gonna be a lot harder to renegotiate your future contract with the loss now isn't. lol. Arums a lucky guy. Things seem to fall his way very often.



....Thomas Hauser is an Arum crony. And when I'm done with Arum he's next.

[whoelsebutjames]

If you read enough of my posts you would know I am not loyal to any promoter unlike you Floyd cheerleaders. No revising of history. The admission came straight from Floyd's mouth.



I know the truth hurts. Try to take it like a man. Floyd himself admitted he marinated the fight for years. Go have yourself a good cry now.

This thread isn't even about Floyd little girl. It's about Arum. Floyds name only comes up because it's in relation to Arum. Like any other Arum or ex Arum fighter

[Jedi Vader]

If you read enough of my posts you would know I am not loyal to any promoter unlike you Floyd cheerleaders. No revising of history. The admission came straight from Floyd's mouth.



I know the truth hurts. Try to take it like a man. Floyd himself admitted he marinated the fight for years. Go have yourself a good cry now.

The only person who has cried throughout this thread is you.

[GhostofDempsey]

This thread isn't even about Floyd little girl. It's about Arum. Floyds name only comes up because it's in relation to Arum. Like any other Arum or ex Arum fighter

Your thread title addressed ducking, we cannot have a discussion about ducking and spreading lies without Floyd. He is the crowned king of ducking.