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  • #41
    Originally posted by MurkaMan View Post
    Greatest of all time, and its not even close. In Floyd, you have a guy where 80% of his resume was 15lbs bigger than him, and he didnt even have the power to hurt them. But his skillset was so amazing, that he humiliated them on pure abilities. Then he got to his 30's, and WHITEWASHED guys who were really too big to be in the ring with him.

    I have never seen that type of dominance on opponents of that caliber, EVER. To put it into perspective, lets take SRL, and take away his power, size, and lets make him a 130lbs fighter, going to 154, He would get killed in the ring by Floyd's opponents.

    Lets then age SRL to about 34-40, and all the fights Floyd had from that age group, would kill SRL.

    Place any fighter at the circumstantial disadvantages of Floyd, and they would all get killed. Some may win, but NOT like Floyd. Floyd's skills made him virtually invincible, no matter how much bigger and younger than him you were, he was going to whitewash you.

    I have never seen anything like that in my life. Where a guy stands in front of you, and avoids your punch by a half an inch. But because he knows for a face that the punch wont get close enough to land, he doesnt even blink an eye, while he pops you in the mouth.

    Im truly appreciative to be in his era. I wouldnt trade this era for the 70's, 80's, or Ali'z era, or SRR era. I honestly feel bad for the old guys who died and missed out on this.

    I ALWAYS used to wonder, why I got picked to be in this era to see this happen live.

    I can go back on yt and watch that past throwback fighters fight, and see that its completely different from what we have in Floyd!

    And I dont care about no Corralles or Genero Hernandez. Those fights happened at the smaller weights. For me, Floyd tipped his legacy when he came back in 09 and fought all those big guys when he got old. When him and Pac didnt fight eachother, he cleaned out the absolute best at and around his weight class, and made it look SO EASY!

    This will never ever happen again, in boxing history.
    People love to bring up Leonard yet call Floyd a runner. Leonard literally bounced around the ring like it was the Main Street ball. Floyd was flat footed compared to Leonard. No exaggeration. Duran quit because Leonard wouldn't sit still. He said something like **** this clown. Lmao.

    Leonard's endurance was otherworldly. All of these old schools guys were. They swung haymakers like they were jabs. They weren't technically brilliant fighters. Duran was probably the best hybrid IMO. He actually has technique, offense that didn't completely rely on his athletics-- yet he was athletic, set traps, intelligent defense, and even blocked shots. Which almost nobody bothered too do back then.

    With all the advancements in training, science, and nutrition, boxing is the only sport where people believe the past athletes would completely outclass the present. Yet they're just repeating **** their dad said, or they read somewhere.

    If ATG means toughman contest of who can stand in front of you and swing haymakers for 15 rounds for 200 fights then- I concede-- the past fighters were the greatest. But if this is an actual sport - then no.
    Last edited by whoelsebutjames; 09-02-2017, 08:23 PM.

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    • #42
      Tiger Mo is top 5. you all we see one day. cant beat barrera and morales as a 10 years old and not be top 5.

      btw, he did it at 10 years cause thats the age he was there weight. inbetween 125 - 135.

      he is now a heavyweight but would weight about 210.

      youll see

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      • #43
        #1 The Best Ever. He is the only boxer in history that defeated boxing!

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        • #44
          No.

          He doesn't compare to the real ATGs like Langford, Greb, Leonard, Robinson, and Armstrong. Those guys were never afraid to fight in their opponents' home towns, and never avoided anybody.

          But his cautious matchmaking and undefeated record are good enough to put Floyd in the top 100.

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          • #45
            In no particular order:
            Sugar Ray Robinson, Sugar Ray Leonard, Henry Armstrong, Roberto Duran, Floyd Mayweather, Muhammad Ali, Joe Louis, Willie Pep, JCC Sr, and Roy Jones Jr, and Sweet Pea.

            I tend to rate people....I've actually seen with my own two eyes. But, some of the legends are so revered BY THEIR OWN PEERS that I have to respect it. I also like to take the guys considered the best of their era. The only thing you can control is the rules, systems and opponents you were brought up in.
            Last edited by SkillspayBills; 09-02-2017, 08:28 PM.

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            • #46
              Originally posted by Freedom2111 View Post
              No.

              He doesn't compare to the real ATGs like Langford, Greb, Leonard, Robinson, and Armstrong. Those guys were never afraid to fight in their opponents' home towns, and never avoided anybody.

              But his cautious matchmaking and undefeated record are good enough to put Floyd in the top 100.

              So tell me a little more about Grebs matchmaking process?

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              • #47
                Originally posted by whoelsebutjames View Post
                So tell me a little more about Grebs matchmaking process?
                He fought everybody who was willing.

                He was a middleweight who fought light heavyweights and heavyweights. He never avoided anybody. In one year, he one more fights than Floyd did in his entire career. And he wasn't a cowardly runner.

                Sam Langford was smaller (shorter in height and had shorter arms) than Mayweather, yet he fought everybody (including much bigger men ,including many heavyweights).

                Floyd refused to fight Golovkin and demanded a catch-weight for Canelo.

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                • #48
                  1. SRR
                  1a. Mayweather
                  3. Ali
                  4. Duran
                  5. SRL
                  6. Pep
                  7. Armstrong
                  8. Louis
                  9. RJj
                  10. Hagler

                  Also, football players are way better today than they were 25 or 50 years ago. Same with basketball players. Why do people think boxing is different? Fighters today are trained better, have better nutrition, and have a team of experts around them.
                  Last edited by Johnny2x2x; 09-02-2017, 09:06 PM.

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                  • #49
                    Originally posted by Freedom2111 View Post
                    He fought everybody who was willing.

                    He was a middleweight who fought light heavyweights and heavyweights. He never avoided anybody. In one year, he one more fights than Floyd did in his entire career. And he wasn't a cowardly runner.

                    Sam Langford was smaller (shorter in height and had shorter arms) than Mayweather, yet he fought everybody (including much bigger men ,including many heavyweights).

                    Floyd refused to fight Golovkin and demanded a catch-weight for Canelo.

                    You do recognize this is all hear say tho and you've never seen him actually fight.

                    Hears some of the footage we have of your ATG OR GOAT

                    https://********/HMA6Pd6tT3Q

                    Last edited by whoelsebutjames; 09-02-2017, 08:49 PM.

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                    • #50
                      Originally posted by Freedom2111 View Post
                      He fought everybody who was willing.

                      He was a middleweight who fought light heavyweights and heavyweights. He never avoided anybody. In one year, he one more fights than Floyd did in his entire career. And he wasn't a cowardly runner.

                      Sam Langford was smaller (shorter in height and had shorter arms) than Mayweather, yet he fought everybody (including much bigger men ,including many heavyweights).

                      Floyd refused to fight Golovkin and demanded a catch-weight for Canelo.
                      First of all Floyd's resume surpasses every boxer in history, he fought more quality opponents than anyone in less time ("cowardly runner" that....), undefeated, 5 division Champ, beat more Champions than anyone, made more money than anyone, got hit the least plus has the highest land percentage. He never refused to fight golovkin, golovkin refused Ward (documented)....as for nelo, nelo & team requested the weight & Floyd did not hesitate. So stop putting out propaganda.

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