Is Mayweather in your Top 10 ATG? Name your Top 10.

[SkillspayBills]

He was the most physically gifted fighter I have ever seen. When his reflexes went he got KOed because he wasn't as sound fundamentally as he needed to be.

What you said is nothing but facts. Forget once in a decade, it may be 50 years before we see someone as naturally gifted as Roy.

[Schmerzen]

he should be ez top 5

[Johnny2x2x]

he should be ez top 5

Yeah. There are a few people who can make reasonable arguments for him being outside the top 5, but they are few and far between. 90% of anyone who has him outside the top 5 is biased. 99.9% of anyone who has him outside the top 10 is biased. His record speaks for itself and it says top 3.

[whoelsebutjames]

I'm not going to do the traditional thing and rank fighters I've never seen any footage from. That's illogical to me.

1. Ali.
Ali before the 3 year hiatus is the most gifted heavyweigt I've ever seen in a heavyweight and nearly unbeatable(Liston, Patterson) no rope a dope just lightning hands and feet.
2. Mayweather
3. Duran
No mas! Still better than Leonard IMO
4. Whitaker
5. Ray Robinson
6. Julio Ceasar Chavez
7. Pacquiao
8. Larry Holmes
9. Hopkins
10. JMM

duran isn't even Top ten maybe top 25

I would have no problem with some one saying Duran is the greatest ever. I also think Leonard overrated. But I wouldn't hold it against you for disagreeing.

People love to bring up Leonard yet call Floyd a runner. Leonard literally bounced around the ring like it was the Main Street ball. Floyd was flat footed compared to Leonard. No exaggeration. Duran quit because Leonard wouldn't sit still. He said something like **** this clown. Lmao.

Leonard's endurance was otherworldly. All of these old schools guys were. They swung haymakers like they were jabs. They weren't technically brilliant fighters. Duran was probably the best hybrid IMO. He actually has technique, offense that didn't completely rely on his athletics-- yet he was athletic, set traps, intelligent defense, and even blocked shots. Which almost nobody bothered too do back then.

With all the advancements in training, science, and nutrition, boxing is the only sport where people believe the past athletes would completely outclass the present. Yet they're just repeating **** their dad said, or they read somewhere.

If ATG means toughman contest of who can stand in front of you and swing haymakers for 15 rounds for 200 fights then- I concede-- the past fighters were the greatest. But if this is an actual sport - then no.

You do recognize this is all hear say tho and you've never seen him actually fight.

Hears some of the footage we have of your ATG OR GOAT

https://********/HMA6Pd6tT3Q

Old school fighter endured hardships and were tough as nails. They were willing to fight it out to the end-- that is undeniable. But ring technicians they were not.


Henry Armstrong



Rocky Marciano vs Ezzard Charles.

[Sugar Adam Ali]

For my edification, explain Armstrong, Charles, and Walker.

Henry Armstrong was feather, lightweight, and welter champ AT THE SAME TIME.. dude was an unstoppable buzzsaw.. think pryor or young manny but better

Ezzard Charles- had a run from middleweight thru heavyweight and fought and beat pretty much everyone. Very versatile fighter in the skills department. Think james Toney, if Toney could stay in shape


Walker- I don't think is a top 10 ATG.. an ATG just not top ten. I think he is a tier down, on the same level as hagler, monzon, etc

[whoelsebutjames]

I would have no problem with some one saying Duran is the greatest ever. I also think Leonard overrated. But I wouldn't hold it against you for disagreeing.





Old school fighter endured hardships and were tough as nails. They were willing to fight it out to the end-- that is undeniable. But ring technicians they were not.


Henry Armstrong



Rocky Marciano vs Ezzard Charles.

Rocky and Charles would not make it in today's heavyweight division.

[Tarl of Bristol]

I have him and manny in my top 30. The guys higher than that had higher level wins, srl fought less than him but he beat haggler(still on a terror), hearns(prime) and duran(prime) and beneitz(prime), those four wins beat all of money's big wins by far, so i could put him any where near SRL on atg list......SRL and duran is in my top 10.

I have Floyd somewhere in top 20-25 but in regard to Aaron Prior, he was a very protected fighter and Floyd would've knocked him out.

SRL is a top 10 but he never actually beat a prime Duran at his natural weight, who is also in my top 10. Anything above 135 and Roberto just wasn't the same fighter, small guy. Granted he had great success when he moved up but that goes toward how great he actually was because he never was the class of fighter he was at lightweight. Still Roberto is the only guy to beat SRL in his prime and he did it at 147.

Floyd vs. an in shape Wilfredo Benitez would be a great fight and I think Benetiz would've beaten him.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O0g8-KVp06s

[moochi]

Forget Floyd... what about Cotto?

He didn't fight for 2 years and first fight back he's a World Champion.... for probably the 20th time.

Moral of the story is that boxing is so **********d and corrupt that virtually any metric you use to judge somebody's greatness will be flawed.

[DuttyAlacrity]

Sugar ray Robinson
Henry Armstrong
Ali
Jack Johnson
Willie pep
Gene Tunney
Jack Dempsey
SRL
Mayweather
Louis

[DuttyAlacrity]

Probably top 40ish boxer.

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