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  • #91
    Originally posted by aboutfkntime View Post
    ummm..... ?

    I agree that Kovalev pulled out of the purse bid, and that NO blame should be directed toward Stevenson

    Adonis called Duva's bluff, you don't blame a man for doing that

    re: Ward, the facts that you want to get "damn straight" are.....

    FACT: in June 2015 Andre Ward fought the super-middleweight Paul Smith at 172 in order to gradually work his way back to 168 following nearly 2 years inactivity in order to fight Golovkin

    there is no other honest/accurate way of looking at it

    you become a LHW, when you are attempting to make 175 in order to fight a LHW..... the preparation is completely different

    insinuating that a particular fight fell within a particular weight, so..... is a little ignorant..... because it comes down to preparation, and Ward was preparing for 168

    just like all that rubbish about Canelo being a middleweight by fighting at 155..... he will be much stronger at 160 and a completely different proposition

    with respect, what I just said..... is WAAAAAY more accurate than what you just said

    I agree that Ward should call Stevenson's " bluff "

    Stevenson is Ward's " Bute " at 175, he would be silly to miss the boat, again..... he should capitalize on his Kovalev momentum

    not making a comparison with those fighters, just with the situation..... Bute was the unproven/unbeaten guy with question marks, just like Stevenson
    Ward weighed in at 171.5 lb, that is a light heavyweight. If you can tell me how a fighter who weighs in above 168 is a super middleweight I'm all ears.

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    • #92
      Originally posted by soul_survivor View Post
      Ward weighed in at 171.5 lb, that is a light heavyweight. If you can tell me how a fighter who weighs in above 168 is a super middleweight I'm all ears.

      I did that soul

      soul..... don't be one of those ***tards

      that is a lifelong badge, until you prove otherwise

      if you don't know, then don't argue.....


      you become a LHW, when you are attempting to make 175 in order to fight a LHW opponent..... the preparation is completely different

      insinuating that a particular fight fell within a particular weight, so..... is a little ignorant..... because it comes down to preparation, and Ward was preparing for 168

      were you one of those guys who were running around saying that Canelo was a middleweight, because he fought at 155..... if so, then you should have smartened up..... because that was immediately prior to Canelo winning the WBO JMW title, at 154

      it is all about preparation

      his training/camp/preparation would have been different had Ward been campaigning at 175..... just like Canelo's training/camp/preparation would have been different had he been campaigning at 160

      I told you guys that Canelo was a fat entitled JMW..... but oh no, everyone else knew better LOL..... and I told you guys that Canelo would be better/stronger at 160

      when Garcia/Peterson fought at 141, so that their junior welterweight titles were not at stake..... did those guys participate in their first welterweight bout.....?

      come on soul, you are smarter than that

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      • #93
        I really do not like either of these fighters but I have to agree with Wards logic on this one.

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        • #94
          Originally posted by aboutfkntime View Post
          I did that soul

          soul..... don't be one of those ***tards

          that is a lifelong badge, until you prove otherwise

          if you don't know, then don't argue.....





          were you one of those guys who were running around saying that Canelo was a middleweight, because he fought at 155..... if so, then you should have smartened up..... because that was immediately prior to Canelo winning the WBO JMW title, at 154

          it is all about preparation

          his training/camp/preparation would have been different had Ward been campaigning at 175..... just like Canelo's training/camp/preparation would have been different had he been campaigning at 160

          I told you guys that Canelo was a fat entitled JMW..... but oh no, everyone else knew better LOL..... and I told you guys that Canelo would be better/stronger at 160

          when Garcia/Peterson fought at 141, so that their junior welterweight titles were not at stake..... did those guys participate in their first welterweight bout.....?

          come on soul, you are smarter than that
          You're adding in your own opinion as to what makes a light heavyweight, I said it plain and simple, Ward did not campaign in a fight where the limit was set at 168 since the Dawson fight. He was 170 or more on 4 separate occassions before Kovalev.

          It's real simple. YOu can twist it or turn it however you like.

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          • #95
            Originally posted by soul_survivor View Post
            You're adding in your own opinion as to what makes a light heavyweight, I said it plain and simple, Ward did not campaign in a fight where the limit was set at 168 since the Dawson fight. He was 170 or more on 4 separate occassions before Kovalev.

            It's real simple. YOu can twist it or turn it however you like.

            but, that is the very definition of a light heavyweight

            they have to make 175, to fight a light heavyweight opponent

            Ward did neither of those things

            and neither did Canelo when he campaigned at 155

            middleweight's make 160, to fight a middleweight opponent

            Canelo did neither of those things, just like Ward

            just like Garcia and Peterson were not welters at 141

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            • #96
              Originally posted by aboutfkntime View Post
              but, that is the very definition of a light heavyweight

              they have to make 175, to fight a light heavyweight opponent

              Ward did neither of those things

              and neither did Canelo when he campaigned at 155

              middleweight's make 160, to fight a middleweight opponent

              Canelo did neither of those things, just like Ward

              just like Garcia and Peterson were not welters at 141
              A light heavyweight is any fighter above 168 and up to 175. What part of that is difficult to understand?

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              • #97
                I do not know how much Stevenson has made in the last few fights. I was guessing that he chose to milk his time in the ring, getting highly probable wins, while waiting for "one big pay day". I thought that would have been against Kovalev...at this point, I don't know.

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                • #98
                  Originally posted by aboutfkntime View Post
                  but, that is the very definition of a light heavyweight

                  they have to make 175, to fight a light heavyweight opponent
                  This is not true - A boxing match is usually scheduled for a fixed weight class, and each boxer's weight must not exceed the upper limit. The limit for light heavyweight is 175. In this case, the fighters must not weigh more (but can weigh less) than 175.

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                  • #99
                    Originally posted by Sledgeweather17 View Post
                    First of all, just because HBO pushed the narrative that Kovalev was #1 doesn't mean he actually was #1. Last time I checked Stevenson still was the lineal and wbc champ and has a better resume. (Don't tell me bwt Kovalev beating a 49 year old and call that a good resume).

                    Secondly, isn't it hyper hypocritical to slam Stevenson for not unifying the division, while in the same sentence basically praising Ward for ducking Stevenson, thereby avoiding a unification himself?

                    I mean, this clearly is the pinnacle of hypocrisy isn't it?
                    kov and ward fans have somethng in common they are both afraid of their guy fighting Adonis who is the lineal 175 champion. ward has a bunch of paper belts compared to what Adonis has. Kovalez was not the best at 175 but the fanboys and the media wanted him to be.

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                    • Originally posted by soul_survivor View Post
                      A light heavyweight is any fighter above 168 and up to 175. What part of that is difficult to understand?

                      this is an accurate description of a light-heavy.....

                      they have to make 175, to fight a light heavyweight opponent

                      it perfectly describes Sergey Kovalev

                      it perfectly describes Adonis Stevenson

                      it did not describe Andre Ward or Paul Smith in June 2015

                      what is difficult to understand about that ?

                      let's leave it, I thought you were better than that

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