Comments Thread For: Arum Rules Out Terence Crawford vs. Jeff Horn For November

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  • Nomadic
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    #11
    Originally posted by Eff Pandas
    Well honestly it makes sense Arum might actually be pro-Horn keeping the belt a lil longer. Who's gonna make Arum more money, the guy selling out 55k arenas in Aussieland or a guy selling out 11k arenas in Nebraska?
    Yep, that sounds about right. F that, that is right!

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    • Mammoth
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      #12
      Originally posted by MrRolltide91
      Lol @ Vegas fight
      Haha i didn't catch that right away.

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      • rrayvez
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        #13
        Arum trying to milk the white fan base for all it's worth before allowing horn to get exposed for the mediocre fighter he is.

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        • TonyGe
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          #14
          Originally posted by Eff Pandas
          Sh^t I never thought about the theory Arum wants to keep Horn in a title. Although that makes sense I guess if he doesn't want Crawford to fight him & he's trying to line up Vargas as a defense cuz Vargas is one of the few name guys who I think he can beat.
          There is too much of a risk that Crawford would beat Horn and screw up the Horn PAC rematch. I don't see how this is acting in the best interests of Crawford by depriving him of a huge payday.

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          • anonymous2.0
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            #15
            Originally posted by Eff Pandas
            Sh^t I never thought about the theory Arum wants to keep Horn in a title. Although that makes sense I guess if he doesn't want Crawford to fight him & he's trying to line up Vargas as a defense cuz Vargas is one of the few name guys who I think he can beat.
            Why not? A Pacquiao-Horn rematch is more money than a Crawford-Horn fight. And I don't know how sentimental Bob is, but maybe he wants Manny's final fight to be a fight where he wins his old title back. It'd make for a good story.

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            • Eff Pandas
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              #16
              Originally posted by TonyGe
              There is too much of a risk that Crawford would beat Horn and screw up the Horn PAC rematch. I don't see how this is acting in the best interests of Crawford by depriving him of a huge payday.
              Arum for sure isn't doing that.

              The thing is Crawford is one of the many boxers these days that doesn't take control of his own career when he throws out the promoter & manager as controllers of his destiny so Crawford is leaving it in Arum's hands by not calling out Manny or Horn or whoever he wants to fight.

              So one could argue Crawford is asking to get f#cked over & passed over when opportunities come up by pleading the fifth about what he wants his future to look like.

              Then again bowing down to Arum & kissing his ring might be how you get ahead with Top Rank if you aren't "the guy" & Crawford isn't THAT popular outside of Nebraska to ever be "the guy" unless he beats a Manny or another name guy or just gets the position by seniority at some point.

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              • Zaroku
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                #17
                I'd like to see Crawford fight horn.
                He'd destroy that whiteboy.

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                • Eff Pandas
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                  #18
                  Originally posted by anonymous2.0
                  Why not? A Pacquiao-Horn rematch is more money than a Crawford-Horn fight. And I don't know how sentimental Bob is, but maybe he wants Manny's final fight to be a fight where he wins his old title back. It'd make for a good story.
                  From a money point of view I don't disagree with you.

                  I'd just like to see Crawford find his ceiling whatever that happens to be & see him in the bigger fights. I just wanna see all the guys who keep winning in bigger fights. The roundabout way boxing works can be frustrating far too often. Rematches & mandatory's & politics & bs. I just wanna see the best compete against the best & I think Horn vs Crawford makes more sense if things fans cared about mattered the most. But things that make money for a promoter matters the most in this era still.

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                  • TonyGe
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                    #19
                    Originally posted by Eff Pandas
                    Arum for sure isn't doing that.

                    The thing is Crawford is one of the many boxers these days that doesn't take control of his own career when he throws out the promoter & manager as controllers of his destiny so Crawford is leaving it in Arum's hands by not calling out Manny or Horn or whoever he wants to fight.

                    So one could argue Crawford is asking to get f#cked over & passed over when opportunities come up by pleading the fifth about what he wants his future to look like.

                    Then again bowing down to Arum & kissing his ring might be how you get ahead with Top Rank if you aren't "the guy" & Crawford isn't THAT popular outside of Nebraska to ever be "the guy" unless he beats a Manny or another name guy or just gets the position by seniority at some point.
                    Well he would be "the guy" in a heartbeat if he beat Horn. The Fed's or someone has to put a stop to this BS. If Manny can't fight Horn or his schedule won't allow it too bad for him. That's coming from a Pacquiao fan. Crawford shouldn't be denied an opportunity based on loyalty or how much more money the promotor could make with another fighter.

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                    • Robbie Barrett
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                      #20
                      Crawford-Horn would be a great fight to showcase Crawfords skills and step him up to WW. Then he could destroy Pacquiao at the start of next year. I don't know why any fighters would want to sign with Top Rank, they've been doing a terrible job for years.

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