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  • Lester Tutor
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    #11
    Originally posted by Eff Pandas
    I believe as Bread said. Floyd let a young guy burn himself out like guys do in the gym every day. That seems a reasonable & likely strategy for a older, retired fighter + it makes the fight more entertaining for fans which I believe Floyd actually cared about with how his last few fights left a bad taste in fans mouths.

    Now onto my question, are you drunk or high when you post random offtopic sh^t to posts you quote?
    you acknowledged performance factor to justify the fight, "entertainment," which again, is the point, and why the Mayweathers trolled the corner...

    Do you think Floyd could have not tired out Conor with his traditional performances? Floyd can read almost everything. Floyd also never gets credit trolling rope a dope

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    • Eff Pandas
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      #12
      Originally posted by Mirko Troll Cop
      you acknowledged performance factor to justify the fight, "entertainment," which again, is the point, and why the Mayweathers trolled the corner...

      Do you think Floyd could have not tired out Conor with his traditional performances? Floyd can read almost everything. Floyd also never gets credit trolling rope a dope
      Answer my question. I answered yours.

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      • Butch.McRae
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        #13
        Originally posted by Eff Pandas
        Idk about that.

        And Andrade damn near lost to that bs netherlands guy, or random UK guy, or european guy or wherever the f#ck that guy was from last time out guy. Germany? I think he'll lose his focus vs the best guys he fights. Mentally he's not there lol. Good fighter that'll beat most cats doe so can't hate on him, but I question if he can beat a bs opponent wasted the last 3yrs version of Lara or that Charlo cat or maybe even Lubin if he's half as good as he seems to think he is.
        I have a very similar opinion of Andrade. Good post.

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          #14
          Originally posted by Mirko Troll Cop
          you acknowledged performance factor to justify the fight, "entertainment," which again, is the point, and why the Mayweathers trolled the corner...

          Do you think Floyd could have not tired out Conor with his traditional performances? Floyd can read almost everything. Floyd also never gets credit trolling rope a dope
          What us your definition of carry? Bread seemed to view it as not fighting back as a means to make the fight look entertaining. That's the way I define carrying. As such Floyd did carry McGregor...yet he did intentionally not counter or use movement as a strategy to burn Conor out. Could he have done so through movement and counters? Likely. Maybe he felt the path he took to victory was the most conservative and prevented the lucky punch you don't see coming possibility.

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            #15
            Originally posted by Ake-Dawg
            What us your definition of carry? Bread seemed to view it as not fighting back as a means to make the fight look entertaining. That's the way I define carrying. As such Floyd did carry McGregor...yet he did intentionally not counter or use movement as a strategy to burn Conor out. Could he have done so through movement and counters? Likely. Maybe he felt the path he took to victory was the most conservative and prevented the lucky punch you don't see coming possibility.
            When you look at Conor hitting any bag, he doesn't know how to properly load up. That's fine, because his training regimen isn't focused on boxing. Floyd, sparring bigger dudes or guys at the same weight knew/knows what to expect from a striker like Conor. Form is everything, this is why little guys like Rigo or GGG know how to set up shots and sting, just the way Floyd has done it for years.

            Floyd wanted to prove with his high guard that he could TAKE IT and that Conor couldn't. It was a trolling performance by Floyd.

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              #16
              I have to disagree with Breadman here. He gives Mosley and Pacquiao as examples of Mayweather's "matchmaking" but that's bull****.

              Floyd chased Mosley for years but could never get that fight back in the days before he was a megastar. He was considered too high risk/low reward. And let's not forget Shane's toothache excuse, it's on YouTube for all to see.

              As for Pacquiao...Floyd agreed to a 50/50 purse split back in 2009. It wasn't Floyd who walked away from the fight all because of a little drug testing.
              Last edited by ShoulderRoll; 09-01-2017, 09:24 AM.

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                #17
                Another good read, someone get this guy a commentary job because so many of them aren't worth listening to and if he can talk as good as he can write he'd be a good addition to whatever channel hired him. I know some people didn't care for Manny Steward as a commentator despite his greatness as a trainer, but I always enjoyed his TV work and in general would like to see more trainers in jobs like that rather than ex-boxers who sometimes don't communicate as well.

                At this point I might pick Andrade and Lara over 40 year old Floyd just because of age, but even though Andrade impresses me more when he's really on form, Lara seems the harder style match up because he has that discipline (if that's the right word for it) where he's gonna go backwards and make Floyd lead, even if the crowd start rioting out of boredom, whereas Andrade would try to make more of an impression, to win the rounds clearly and to land eye-catching shots, which would suit Floyd more and give him more chances to time, figure out and counter punch DA.

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                • Sugar Q
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                  #18
                  Not only did Floyd pursue Mosley and Manny long before they fought he also pursued Cotto and was told to go away until Cotto got hot but yet Floyd gets the blame for the timing of those fights. Bread was also wrong about Bradley/khan, I remember Bradley chasing Khan before he unified with Devon but Khan wanted no part of him instead he called himself dictating who Bradley should fight.

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                  • future hendrixx
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                    #19
                    statistically khan would've been tougher for floyd than maidana, guerrero, berto, ortiz and conor combined. after he beat alexander and collazo he was red hot barely lost a round in those fights and floyd still passed on him. i even remember folks picking collazo to win based on his power and khans chin but afterward collazo was a bum nobody smh. Khan had the speed, legs and combos to give floyd nightmares. again speaking purely from a style perspective. get your hate for khans personal life and big mouth out the way.

                    conor lost simply because hes not built to last 12 rounds. period. his tank went empty. theres nothing more to analyze. with the right boxing conditioning it goes all 12 rounds.

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                    • Liondw
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                      #20
                      I watched the european fight with sound but no commentary and I'm no conspiracy theorist, but commentators are very biased, whether you watch Hbo or Showtime or Espn. It influences the way you view a fight. I have no idea why the ref stopped the fight while McGregor was ok but fatigued. I thought people are being silly about Pacquaio deserving the decision vs Floyd but when you watch it, normal motion, no commentary, it seems Manny won with more scoring punches. Vegas has robbed many a fighter and that is the truth. God bless Floyd but thank goodness we won't see him ever again, as he was not great and exciting for boxing let's be honest.

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