Name 1 Prime A-level fighter that Mayweather has on his resume......

[ironmt]

How is cotto dragged down in weight to 145 better than full strength cotto at 154 coming off of beating margaritos ass? Cotto wasnt damaged goods at all, he just took a beating from margarito then beat his ass in the rematch. Someone who is damaged goods doesnt do that.

The truth is both floyd and manny fought cotto while he was still in his prime, manny just dragged him down 2 extra pounds for no reason but to drain him a little more.

Also canelo was in his prime when floyd beat him he had over 40 pro fights and had been a pro since 15, he wasnt "green" at all. And wasnt drained at all, him and oscar offered to fight floyd at 150, floyd actually gave them 2 extra pounds by fighting at 152.

Canelo
Cotto

2 prime a level opponents. There you go.

Floyd and Manny did not fight a prime Cotto.

"When the (fight) negotiations started, they wanted me to go to 147. I said that's physically impossible. I couldn't do it. Then they inched up to 150. I said I can't do it, that's impossible. Those days are over. I can't make that weight anymore, I've grown.

"Then they went up to 151. And then finally, so we could make the fight, I said, 'If anything, I'll give up two pounds. I'll go up to 152. I agreed to that. Then they tried to force me to be quiet and not to mention anything that they came up with the weight of 152. And that's why ... I haven't said anything until now.

"They said we were idiots, we were ******, that we were the ones that wanted the catchweight."
Mayweather's camp responded by saying the "took advantage of a situation" and that Mayweather's role in increasing the value of the fight, and thus the amount of money Canelo will make, gives him "the right" to utilize his leverage.

Alvarez has not weighed 152 or under since coming in at 151.5 against Matthew Hatton in 2011.

Didn't Floyd say he doesn't fight at catch weights?

[New England]

I just want to know, how is cotto in his prime when manny fought him. But not in his prime when he fought mayweather?

Manny fought cotto after margarito and dragged cotto down in weight for no reason instead of fighting him at 147. When cotto fought floyd , floyd fought him at the full 154 and cotto actually got revenge over margarito before he fought floyd.

So you could say floyd beat a better version of cotto, that debunks the past prime myth of cotto. So there you go , cotto and canelo are 2 prime opponents on floyds resume.

neither floyd nor pacquiao fought a prime cotto.
pacquiao fought the better version of cotto. pacquiao did better against cotto.


if you really think cotto was prime when he fought floyd you genuinely have no idea what you're talking about. cotto was never the same after the margarito fight, and he took an additional life changing beating against manny and was reduced to not even trying to win the fight. the margarito beating changed him mentally and physically. pacquiao finished off whatever remained.

[RussB23]

Obviously you're new to boxing and have no clue the timeline.

Cotto fought @ 147 where he was beat to **** by Marg.
Cotto fought and beat Jennings and then Clottey each time weighing 146
Cotto got TKO by Pac @ 145
2 years later, he fought Marg @ 154 followed by Floyd.

Floyd beat a 32 year old Cotto at the tail of his career after two brutal beatdowns in a weight class above his best weight. Pac beat a 28 year old with one loss in his best weight class.

Canelo was still very green and had no notable wins at the time and you criticize Manny for Cotto catchweight...but give Floyd a pass for his catcweight against Canelo. Which is it?

So cotto beating margs ass in the rematch means nothing? lol you guys are ridiculous. He was still a beast when floyd fought him at 154.

And about the canelo catchweight and mannys catchweight against cotto, in the grand scheme of things they really meant nothing. Its just 2 extra pounds that both guys made. None of them where severly drained just made a little tougher cut. And canelo wasnt green, he was coming off og beating trouts ass and everyone knew he was legit at that point. "green" is shakur stevenson right now. Canelo wasnt ****ing green, hes still basically the same damn fighter he was when floyd whooped his ass just a bit more experienced.

[joseph5620]

Casamayor and Castillo, then was repeatedly knocked out by the same guys. That doesnt make him A-level. Castillo was then knocked out by Ricky Hatton, and Casamayor got knocked out by JMM. His wins are already not that great abd Corrales himslef is not great by being repeatedly knocked out repeatedly. He is not aLevel.

You obviously have a very low boxing IQ if you dismiss a fighter for being knocked out. Your hero Manny Pacquiao was knocked out the times. Let that sink in.

Castillo was way past his prime in the Hatton fight. You're too dumb to waste time with.

[New England]

Floyd and Manny did not fight a prime Cotto.

"When the (fight) negotiations started, they wanted me to go to 147. I said that's physically impossible. I couldn't do it. Then they inched up to 150. I said I can't do it, that's impossible. Those days are over. I can't make that weight anymore, I've grown.

"Then they went up to 151. And then finally, so we could make the fight, I said, 'If anything, I'll give up two pounds. I'll go up to 152. I agreed to that. Then they tried to force me to be quiet and not to mention anything that they came up with the weight of 152. And that's why ... I haven't said anything until now.

"They said we were idiots, we were ******, that we were the ones that wanted the catchweight."
Mayweather's camp responded by saying the "took advantage of a situation" and that Mayweather's role in increasing the value of the fight, and thus the amount of money Canelo will make, gives him "the right" to utilize his leverage.

Alvarez has not weighed 152 or under since coming in at 151.5 against Matthew Hatton in 2011.

Didn't Floyd say he doesn't fight at catch weights?

tough to take a guy with "TBE" in his name seriously where mayweather threads are concerned, no? it's amazing that these guys are in the same threads literlaly year after year supporting floyd in every thread and genuinely believing that they're unbiased.


i was at floyd - canelo. canelo sat on a chair during the weigh in. went almost straight to the chair when he didn't need to be standing up. his stomach was sunken in like he hadn't eaten a solid meal in days. the next day he looked like a completely different person. the guy was brutally drained at 152 lbs.


canelo is a really good fighter and honestly it's not a bad win for mayweather even considering the weight, but let's not let these guys act like canelo wasn't drained when he fought floyd, when we all know damn well that he was.


floyd's one of the most carefully matched hall of famers of all time. he was mathched to make money in the long term, and extend his career. not for the purity of competition. those are just a facts.

[New England]

So cotto beating margs ass in the rematch means nothing? lol you guys are ridiculous. He was still a beast when floyd fought him at 154.

And about the canelo catchweight and mannys catchweight against cotto, in the grand scheme of things they really meant nothing. Its just 2 extra pounds that both guys made. None of them where severly drained just made a little tougher cut. And canelo wasnt green, he was coming off og beating trouts ass and everyone knew he was legit at that point. "green" is shakur stevenson right now. Canelo wasnt ****ing green, hes still basically the same damn fighter he was when floyd whooped his ass just a bit more experienced.

yes, it means next to nothing. margarito had taken one of hte worst beatings of his generation against pacquiao, who broke his orbital bone and seriously compromised his eyesight. he was also very obviosuly cheating when he beat cotto, and hadn't a shred fo teh late fight power in the rematch.


margarito can't even get sanctioned to fight in america. let that sink in.


but let me guess, a guy named TBE wants to build up the win for cotto to build up the cotto win for mayweather

[joseph5620]

tough to take a guy with "TBE" in his name seriously where mayweather threads are concerned, no? it's amazing that these guys are in the same threads literlaly year after year supporting floyd in every thread and genuinely believing that they're unbiased.


i was at floyd - canelo. canelo sat on a chair during the weigh in. went almost straight to the chair when he didn't need to be standing up. his stomach was sunken in like he hadn't eaten a solid meal in days. the next day he looked like a completely different person. the guy was brutally drained at 152 lbs.


canelo is a really good fighter and honestly it's not a bad win for mayweather even considering the weight, but let's not let these guys act like canelo wasn't drained when he fought floyd, when we all know damn well that he was.


[B]floyd's one of the most carefully matched hall of famers of all time. he was mathched to make money in the long term, and extend his career. not for the purity of competition. those are just a facts.

How exactly was Canelo "drained" in the fight? Did he tire?

Your opinions are not "facts" just because you say they are. It doesn't work like that. Facts need to be backed up. Name all the fighters within the last 20 years with a better resume.

[-MAKAVELLI-]

i'm gonna give New England a 10-8 round for this exchange

[ironmt]

tough to take a guy with "TBE" in his name seriously where mayweather threads are concerned, no? it's amazing that these guys are in the same threads literlaly year after year supporting floyd in every thread and genuinely believing that they're unbiased.


i was at floyd - canelo. canelo sat on a chair during the weigh in. went almost straight to the chair when he didn't need to be standing up. his stomach was sunken in like he hadn't eaten a solid meal in days. the next day he looked like a completely different person. the guy was brutally drained at 152 lbs.


canelo is a really good fighter and honestly it's not a bad win for mayweather even considering the weight, but let's not let these guys act like canelo wasn't drained when he fought floyd, when we all know damn well that he was.


floyd's one of the most carefully matched hall of famers of all time. he was mathched to make money in the long term, and extend his career. not for the purity of competition. those are just a facts.

I agree, Canelo Is a very good win, but as you said, he was clearly drained. His fans argue, but Floyd himself has stated that his team matched him perfectly. It Is Interesting that Canelo needed a chair present at the weigh In. Didn't realize he was quite that bad.

[daggum]

So cotto beating margs ass in the rematch means nothing? lol you guys are ridiculous. He was still a beast when floyd fought him at 154.

And about the canelo catchweight and mannys catchweight against cotto, in the grand scheme of things they really meant nothing. Its just 2 extra pounds that both guys made. None of them where severly drained just made a little tougher cut. And canelo wasnt green, he was coming off og beating trouts ass and everyone knew he was legit at that point. "green" is shakur stevenson right now. Canelo wasnt ****ing green, hes still basically the same damn fighter he was when floyd whooped his ass just a bit more experienced.

margs was just destroyed by mosley and pac so he clearly was not the same especially with that gruesome injury(had to bribe commision in order to let him fight) how much credit should cotto get? especially seeing as he didnt even fight the last 3 rounds when marg was coming on. just name one good win cotto has above 147......................nothing found. beast lmao. if this isnt evidence that floyd fans are irrational i dont know what is. trying to pretend cotto was great to make floyd look better. same people said cotto and margs were shot when pac fought them now cotto beating margs is amazing? stop tying your brain into a pretzel its gotta be painful