The Mayweather handpicking myth is a lie

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  • Johnny2x2x
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    #51
    So should Floyd have ducked Hatton who was calling him out to fight Tszyu who Hatton had just smashed? Floyd fought the best at 135 already in Castillo, twice. Floyd fought the best at 130. 140 was just a pitstop for him on the way up to chase bigger cash fights.

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    • Johnny2x2x
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      #52
      A bunch of know nothings talking about Kostya Tszyu who don't even know how to spell his name correctly.

      Kostya Tszyu got smashed by Hatton so he retired, he was never an option for Floyd to fight, period.

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        #53
        Originally posted by Metho_4u
        I'm sorry...i was under the impression he fought and beat Mosley, arguably after one of Mosley best performances AND it wasntf even at Mayweather's best weight class.

        Did Mosley say "yeah, I'd like that fight"? When he was asked...no. He didn't...he talked about marga******o....That's not what old man merchant asked him though, was it? Just stfu anus taster.
        Like I told you, Mosley had been calling him out since LW. Why would he suddenly decide to duck him later on? Floyd has demonstrated a pattern of this behavior. Mosley has not. Neither has any of Floyd's other opponents who he fought past their prime.

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          #54
          Originally posted by whoelsebutjames
          1. Baldomir was the lineal champ.


          2. Mosely was at welter in 2000, Floyd didn't even move up to lightweight until 2002

          Most of your aurgment is hindsight not as it happened. You can say your unimpressed by who he fought, that's fair, but you can't say that he fought all these guys at the wrong time. By the same logic, Mosely has like a dozen losses now, is he garbage to?

          Mayweather ducked Cotto in 2008, question mark Marg when Arum offered him 7 mil, Tzu, Paul Williams, PAC, and Quintana. I can say Judah but Judah already was what he was when he got to the division.

          Let's be real-- Only Cotto, Tzu, and PAC mattered.
          Mosley was calling for Floyd back at LW. Mosley was 135 and asked Floyd when he was moving up to fight him (Floyd was at 130). Floyd told him he wasn't interested in fighting him and once Mosley departed 135 it was safe for Floyd to move up. Let's not pretend Mosley was at his best when he fought Floyd.

          Baldomir beat Judah, and then somehow Judah got a fight with Floyd coming off a loss to Baldomir. Neither of them were wins were bragging about.

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          • Johnny2x2x
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            #55
            Originally posted by GhostofDempsey
            Mosley was calling for Floyd back at LW. Mosley was 135 and asked Floyd when he was moving up to fight him (Floyd was at 130). Floyd told him he wasn't interested in fighting him and once Mosley departed 135 it was safe for Floyd to move up. Let's not pretend Mosley was at his best when he fought Floyd.

            Baldomir beat Judah, and then somehow Judah got a fight with Floyd coming off a loss to Baldomir. Neither of them were wins were bragging about.
            Delusional, there's video evidence of Mayweather calling Mosely out for years, Mosely wanted none of him.

            And did he hand pick the 2nd fights with Castillo and Madaina? Seems odd for a cherry picker to give rematches to the only 2 fighters who ever came close to beating him. Why didn't Floyd just move on and fight other guys then? He had the Ws vs Castillo and Madaina the 1st time, why give them immediate rematches if he was trying to protect the zero?

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            • JK1700
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              You know Floyd basically cleaned out boxing when the people you guys are saying he should've fought are Bumgarito and Paul Williams. Bumgarito couldn't even beat Santos and Williams (who lost to Carlos Quintana FFS). He was only ever winning fights because he had loaded gloves and Paul probably would've fought Floyd if not for his career ending the way it did. Plus he couldn't beat guys like Lara etc.

              Tszyu - Price himself out

              Cotto in 2008 - Even BOB ARUM admitted he wasn't ready

              Casamayor/Freitas - Neither guy wanted the fight, Floyd called them out

              Bottom line the man didn't duck anyone. He fought the best guys at the time. Baldomir was the LINEAL champion at Welterweight at the time and hadn't lost for like 8 years straight. Margarito lost every round vs Cotto, Mosley and Pacquiao once he didn't have bricks in his gloves so I don't even want to hear about that bum. Floyd fought and beat all the top guys who were willing to fight him. 25 world champions, that's not enough? Some guys only have 5 on their resume.

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                #57
                Also LOL @ Shane "My tooth hurts and I need a vacation" Mosley being mentioned.

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                • Johnny2x2x
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                  #58
                  Originally posted by JK1700
                  You know Floyd basically cleaned out boxing when the people you guys are saying he should've fought are Bumgarito and Paul Williams. Bumgarito couldn't even beat Santos and Williams (who lost to Carlos Quintana FFS). He was only ever winning fights because he had loaded gloves and Paul probably would've fought Floyd if not for his career ending the way it did. Plus he couldn't beat guys like Lara etc.

                  Tszyu - Price himself out

                  Cotto in 2008 - Even BOB ARUM admitted he wasn't ready

                  Casamayor/Freitas - Neither guy wanted the fight, Floyd called them out

                  Bottom line the man didn't duck anyone. He fought the best guys at the time. Baldomir was the LINEAL champion at Welterweight at the time and hadn't lost for like 8 years straight. Margarito lost every round vs Cotto, Mosley and Pacquiao once he didn't have bricks in his gloves so I don't even want to hear about that bum. Floyd fought and beat all the top guys who were willing to fight him. 25 world champions, that's not enough? Some guys only have 5 on their resume.
                  Truth. If Margarito beats Cotto in their rematch he might have been lined up to face Mayweather, but he got his ass kicked. IF Paul Williams hadn't gotten his ass kicked he might have eventually been able to get that fight too. Keep winning and you get to fight the best, lose and you have to start over most of the time. Kostya Tszyu doesn't get his butt kicked by Hatton and he might have gotten the fight eventually. Of course, then people would be saying he ducked Hatton to fight Tszyu after Hatton had smashed him. They'd say he ducked the lineal champ on a huge win streak in Baldomir had he not fought him too.

                  Remember when they said he'd never fight Marquez after Marquez called him out? Remember when they said he'd never fight a young undefeated bull like Canelo? And on and on.

                  21 years, he fought them all and beat them all. These pathetic losers would love it if he fought Ward in 3 years at 175 just so they can say that Mayweather lost.

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                  • whoelsebutjames
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                    #59
                    Originally posted by Johnny2x2x
                    Delusional, there's video evidence of Mayweather calling Mosely out for years, Mosely wanted none of him.
                    Floyd was calling him out when he was looking for cash fights. And as someone else pointed out. Bob did say Cotto wasn't ready.

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                    • whoelsebutjames
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                      #60
                      Originally posted by Johnny2x2x
                      A bunch of know nothings talking about Kostya Tszyu who don't even know how to spell his name correctly.

                      Kostya Tszyu got smashed by Hatton so he retired, he was never an option for Floyd to fight, period.
                      I don't think Floyd ducked TSZYU, but you can't have a logical conversation without aknoweleging some one else's point of view and being impartial. I'm tired of sports personalities saying Mayweather cherry picked but their memories of events were foggy at best.

                      I layed out the majority of the timeline in the initial post as I remember it and clarified different view points in other posts but instead of people coming with better evidence they create new threads and change the subject.

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