The Mayweather handpicking myth is a lie

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  • hugh grant
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    #41
    Its not a myth. His resume of trying to keep zero isn't myth as well. Not fighting toughest opponents available isn't myth as well.
    Floyd only fights when he thinks he can beat his opponents, picking right time. He said it himself

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    • Roy Keane
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      #42
      Problem with boxing is we don't really know what goes on behind the scenes.

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      • !! Shawn
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        #43
        Floyd definitely has picked fighters at the right time, and has a long history of skipping out of divisons when they start to heat up, or retiring only to come back after the division cools down.

        For example. Lightweight, he Skipped on Casamayor, and a very hot Acelino Freitas.

        The window for these fights is notably when Floyd was fighting the likes of Bruseles and Corley and Ndou.

        He also unquestionably waited out Cotto, Pacquiao, and avoided Williams.

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          #44
          Originally posted by !! Shawn
          Floyd definitely has picked fighters at the right time, and has a long history of skipping out of divisons when they start to heat up, or retiring only to come back after the division cools down.

          For example. Lightweight, he Skipped on Casamayor, and a very hot Acelino Freitas.

          The window for these fights is notably when Floyd was fighting the likes of Bruseles and Corley and Ndou.

          He also unquestionably waited out Cotto, Pacquiao, and avoided Williams.
          He cant fight everyone, if he fought and beat those guys you be crying he did not fight the ones he did.

          You people are like cross-dressers .

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          • whoelsebutjames
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            #45
            Originally posted by GhostofDempsey
            Wow, where to start?

            Hernandez fought his last fight against Floyd.

            Manfredy was B-rate at best. Nothing special.

            Corrales was straight up and down, his style suited perfectly for Floyd. Nice win, but Diegovwas not elite class.

            Mitchell was at the end of his career. Knocked out in all six of his losses. Kosta's leftovers.

            Corley had 28 losses over the course of his career. Who didn't beat him?

            Gatti was shot, at the end of his career and by Floyd's own admission, C-rate.

            He got a gift versus Castillo. Loss #1.

            Judah as we now know was nothing special. More of Kosta's leftovers.

            Oscar was past his prime and should have been awarded the decision. Gift #2.

            Hatton was small and a brawler. Joe Cortez perve Ted him from fighting on the inside. Took Floyd ten rounds to do what Pac did in two.

            Mosley was washed up. Floyd ducked him since 130/135.

            Cotto was damaged goods and not at his best. Cotto became an improved fighter under Roach.

            Pacquiao was past his prime and Floyd even admits he stalled this fight for years so it could marinate, as though he is some Nostrodamus of boxing. Marinate is the code word for ducking.

            Guerrero and Ortiz were hype jobs and B-rate.

            Baldomir already had nine losses, nothing special.

            Canelo was still green. Not the same fighter he is now and took the fight at a catch weight.

            Floyd also ducked Margarito, Casamayor, Freitas, Paul Williams, Stevie Johnston, Winky Wright who he called out, Sergio Martinez, Khan, and a rematch with Oscar. Chose Midana 2X instead of Khan who already beat him. Got gift #3 versus Maidana. Chose Berto over Thurman, Garcia, Porter, Brook or rematch with Pac. Never did cross paths with Kosta, Forrest or anyone significant at 154 either.
            1. Baldomir was the lineal champ.


            2. Mosely was at welter in 2000, Floyd didn't even move up to lightweight until 2002

            Most of your aurgment is hindsight not as it happened. You can say your unimpressed by who he fought, that's fair, but you can't say that he fought all these guys at the wrong time. By the same logic, Mosely has like a dozen losses now, is he garbage to?

            Mayweather ducked Cotto in 2008, question mark Marg when Arum offered him 7 mil, Tzu, Paul Williams, PAC, and Quintana. I can say Judah but Judah already was what he was when he got to the division.

            Let's be real-- Only Cotto, Tzu, and PAC mattered.

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            • whoelsebutjames
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              #46
              Originally posted by hugh grant
              Its not a myth. His resume of trying to keep zero isn't myth as well. Not fighting toughest opponents available isn't myth as well.
              Floyd only fights when he thinks he can beat his opponents, picking right time. He said it himself
              This is a semi-reasonable point. Floyd should of took on Tzu in his first fight at Jr welter than immediately jumped to 147 and fought Cotto and Margarito as his first fights there. But nobody else does that either?

              When people talk about ducking they're talking about Floyd at 140-147 vs career welters. 2004- 2008.

              Tzu was done in 2005

              Margarito at the time had like 4 losses. And was only known for beating Cintron. Lost to Williams 2007. Would you give Floyd credit for fighting a guy with 4 losses in hindsight?

              Cotto, Williams, and PAC.

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              • RespekonMyName
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                #47
                I'm sick of hearing about Margarito. Floyd would've fought him, but he wanted bigger guaranteed money from Arum for the following fights with Cotto and Hatton. Arum didn't even want to make the Oscar fight, so Floyd bought out his contract for around $750K in the shrewdest business move in boxing history.

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                • Ray*
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                  #48
                  You can't win every cherry picking, one way or the other one cherry would pop in your face.

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                  • Ray*
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                    #49
                    Originally posted by RespekonMyName
                    I'm sick of hearing about Margarito. Floyd would've fought him, but he wanted bigger guaranteed money from Arum for the following fights with Cotto and Hatton. Arum didn't even want to make the Oscar fight, so Floyd bought out his contract for around $750K in the shrewdest business move in boxing history.
                    We all know that, I just laugh when ever Margarito name gets mentioned or when people pull out a video of Mayweather telling Margarito "This is business etc" That was a Margarito that needed an interpreter to tell him what TBE was saying to him.

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                    • whoelsebutjames
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                      Originally posted by Ray*
                      We all know that, I just laugh when ever Margarito name gets mentioned or when people pull out a video of Mayweather telling Margarito "This is business etc" That was a Margarito that needed an interpreter to tell him what TBE was saying to him.
                      I'm being impartial. Marg is non factor overall.

                      But I wouldn't call it completely unreasonable to say Floyd didn't go out his way to fight Tzu, Cotto, Williams, or PAC. And Tzu didn't last long while he was near floyds weight class. Everything else is a reenvisioning of history. If 4 missed opportunities is a duck then every fighters a duck. You can come up with 4 names for any fighter.

                      For instance, Mosely fought nearly everybody at the wrong time and weight, so you could say Mosely had no ducks. Mosely also had steroids.

                      He also chased delahoya for a fight in 2000 and didn't fight Tzu even though they were near the same weightclass at that time. Mosely didn't fight Williams either.

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