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  • Reloaded
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    #41
    Originally posted by Diego Rodriguez
    NO he didn't do much but hard to win rounds win you throw 6, 9 and 12 punches. It wasn't so much McGregor winning rounds as Floyd just giving them to him.
    I agree with what youre saying to an extent, but by the same token judges do score defense when a guy is being aggressive but not landing they give the defense points, that's a discretionary thing.

    The whole purpose of this is to say the judges were not robbing anyone those early rounds were much closer than what even I thought watching the telecast, and it poses the question of what did they see at ringside, Floyd was a boss in this fight.

    I agree with the poster saying good angle, I love watching fights like this it actually shows more atmosphere than the dead real telecast.

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    • Diego Rodriguez
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      #42
      Originally posted by Reloaded
      I agree with what youre saying to an extent, but by the same token judges do score defense when a guy is being aggressive but not landing they give the defense points, that's a discretionary thing.

      The whole purpose of this is to say the judges were not robbing anyone those early rounds were much closer than what even I thought watching the telecast, and it poses the question of what did they see at ringside, Floyd was a boss in this fight.

      I agree with the poster saying good angle, I love watching fights like this it actually shows more atmosphere than the dead real telecast.
      Judging in the end is simply subjective. You are right a judge can figure out how to give a round based on defense, I simply won't. It is like a football game, you can have an amazing D but if you get 0 points (in boxing you don't land punches) and the other team scores 2 they win.

      I think there is also a chance that some of the judges didn't like how may illegal blows Conor was throwing/landing. That might have left a bad impression in their mind. Also, I can't deny that there might have been bias for boxing. Anyways fortunately judging didn't matter as the fight was ended, even Conor said this.

      But Golovkin, just another example of why he needs to make it clear on 9/16. He better finish him inside the distance or beat him up so bad that no one can argue Canelo won (and since no matter what you can always find someone to make that argument, well he better finish Canelo).

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        #43
        Originally posted by Diego Rodriguez
        Judging in the end is simply subjective. You are right a judge can figure out how to give a round based on defense, I simply won't. It is like a football game, you can have an amazing D but if you get 0 points (in boxing you don't land punches) and the other team scores 2 they win.

        I think there is also a chance that some of the judges didn't like how may illegal blows Conor was throwing/landing. That might have left a bad impression in their mind. Also, I can't deny that there might have been bias for boxing. Anyways fortunately judging didn't matter as the fight was ended, even Conor said this.

        But Golovkin, just another example of why he needs to make it clear on 9/16. He better finish him inside the distance or beat him up so bad that no one can argue Canelo won (and since no matter what you can always find someone to make that argument, well he better finish Canelo).
        That's a good point you make about the back of the head punches, the judges may very well had that effect their scoring.

        Judging in boxing is always wishy washy and often flawed I don't know why they don't implement trial by camera like other sports, look at Tank Davis given a KO from a clear back of the head shot and I really like Tank as a fighter, its embarrassing to casuals who see a instant replay as plain as day and the opposite is the official verdict, just wrong and in this day and age quite primitive.

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        • WesternChamp
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          #44
          Originally posted by travestyny
          No one needs convincing, you idiot. We all saw what happened. The point is Spoon didn't do the same thing. He showed a slow motion video from a self-proclaimed White Supremacist who tried to justify his bullshlt by counting punches. If you're not talking about that, then maybe you have no idea what the actual **** Spoon tried to do. Maybe you should stop talking out of your arse.

          We know you wanted him to lose. We also know you tried to cling to anything possible to taint the win like claiming that he didn't really want to allow 8 oz gloves, then he made you eat crow. He just slapped his schlong all over your face. Deal with it.
          why would a white supremacist make manny look good for? and im talking about the constant jokes about how pac fans always have to bring up videos to prove a point.

          which is exactly what a floyd fan is doing now idiot! all the other stuff you brought up about spoon is just your reaching for more, im not even gonna get into that with you. im simply talking about "posting videos to prove a point". run along now.

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            #45
            Originally posted by WesternChamp
            why would a white supremacist make manny look good for? and im talking about the constant jokes about how pac fans always have to bring up videos to prove a point.

            which is exactly what a floyd fan is doing now idiot! all the other stuff you brought up about spoon is just your reaching for more, im not even gonna get into that with you. im simply talking about "posting videos to prove a point". run along now.
            What should we post only hate like you do, haters are germs and a disease in all sports, Spoons edited copy is nothing like this and all I have said is those early rounds were much closer than what we thought.

            I know its hard for haters to be honest, that's why they stay out of threads that show Floyd in a positive light.

            Haters have no honor.

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            • travestyny
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              #46
              Originally posted by WesternChamp
              why would a white supremacist make manny look good for? and im talking about the constant jokes about how pac fans always have to bring up videos to prove a point.

              which is exactly what a floyd fan is doing now idiot! all the other stuff you brought up about spoon is just your reaching for more, im not even gonna get into that with you. im simply talking about "posting videos to prove a point". run along now.
              You really aren't very bright, are you?

              "White people are supreme. That's White supremacy."
              --Precise Presenter

              "On average as a whole whether it comes to intellect, technology, inventions, building civilizations, society, the white man is superior to the black man. And that’s just a fact that a lot of you have problems dealing with."
              -- Precise Presenter

              But....

              Saying that the black man is athletically superior is the very definition of racism. -- Precise Presenter


              While...

              Saying the white man is intellectually superior to the black man is a fact. --Precise Presenter



              Now, why don't you tell me what this guy's agenda was. Can you put it together, little guy? Let me help a bit more. Here are a few of his videos.

              * Protected Black Chumps and Their Racist Fanboys
              * Jean Pascal's Coonery
              * Chris Algeri, the YTBC Hates You!!!
              * I'm a Sergey Kovalev Fan!!!
              * White Supremacy (where he so disgustingly states "Whites are supreme!")
              * Racial Superiority in Sports and American Race Politics
              * Floyd Mayweather: Al Haymon's Race Pimp and Useful Idiot
              * I dislike GGG because of his [white] Fans (guess what angle he takes)
              * Gennady Golovin's Resume is Better than Andre Wards!!!
              * Floyd Mayweather Affirmative Action
              * Gennady Golovkins White privilege...Roy Jones Affirmative Action
              * Flowmoisms Debunked Parts I, II, and III
              * Floyd Mayweather is an Illusionist
              * Sergey Kovalev's Monkey Business
              * and
              * Farrakhan is Feeling Himself.


              Do you get it yet? As for the other part of your post, you've already been schooled enough on that, haven't you?

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              • Hype job
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                #47
                First round was embarrassing for Floyd.

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                • Hype job
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                  #48
                  Don't really see much different. Floyd lost the first 3 clearly.

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                  • IronDanHamza
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                    #49
                    I gave him 2 rounds and they were pretty much default rounds.

                    Doesn't matter anyway because he got his ass whooped.

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                    • Soda_Popinski
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                      #50
                      Originally posted by Hype Job
                      First round was embarrassing for Floyd.
                      I don't agree...I mean...if Floyd was TRYING to throw and missing or getting tee'd off on? Yeah, that's embarrassing...but he wasn't even throwing punches...

                      You only have to go back to the Berto fight, to see how differently Mayweather treated this first round...

                      Mayweather didn't exactly set the world on fire in round 1 against Berto...but you can see he's bouncing and moving and throwing much, much more often...completely different game plan...

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