Max Kellerman - "Connor wasn't even trying to hit that hard."

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  • USMCer
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    #11
    Originally posted by GGG Gloveking
    That sh it makes no fuçking sense to me. Conor wasn't trying to win? Did he think hed out point Floyd? Or get a lucky arm punch?
    No, it's not that.

    Conor was trying to take a measured approach... rather than go all out and try to take Floyd out in the early rounds, I imagine the gameplan was to Box for the 12 rounds.

    Poor strategy, in hindsight.

    Conor's best chance was to pour it all out in the first few rounds. Try to set up the big shots. He had the uppercut going, but never really went to that big straight left like he usually does.




    Last edited by USMCer; 08-29-2017, 03:34 PM.

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    • Metho_4u
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      #12
      Originally posted by USMCer
      Thoughts?
      Being an honest commentator?


      Max Kellerman, here's the actual quote:
      - "Conor McGregor, as most great fighters have, has an extremely high fighting-IQ. It's the reason he didn't really hit Mayweather with anything hard. He didn't load up on any punches...

      Because Conor is smart enough to know, 'if I try to load-up on something, I'm not going to hit Floyd'... so he quick-punched him. He used his speed and hit him with arm-punches..."


      Which is what I thought, and what Joe Rogan said too.




      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HXAkogS8NM8
      Well if ROGAN said it....then it must be true lol

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      • Red_Menace
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        #13
        That uppercut did not appear to hurt floyd at all, and it did not deter him in any way. People need to get over it. Landing one significant punch in a fight is not an achievement. It's literally the purpose of being in the ring, or the cage, or wherever. Conor landed one decent shot, in the first round, and that was it. A combat fighter not trying to throw hard punches is literally the dumbest thing I've ever heard of. It doesn't happen. People throw the power their capable of. Heavy hitters are not loading up on every punch, they just hit ****ing hard. Conor's average punch has zero power.

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          #14
          Originally posted by USMCer
          No, it's not that.

          Conor was trying to take a measured approach... rather than go all out and try to take Floyd out in the early rounds, I imagine the gameplan was to Box for the 12 rounds.

          Poor strategy, in hindsight.

          Conor's best chance was to pour it all out in the first few rounds. Try to set up the big shots. He had the uppercut going, but never really went to that big straight left like he usually does.




          I don't think it was a poor strategy in hindsight, I think it was a poor strategy in foresight. To try to go out and outbox Floyd wasn't going to happen. I think it's ******. I can see a round, maybe 2, to adjust to Floyd. But to not go out and put it all out there, to me, says he wasn't trying to win

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            #15
            Originally posted by NEETzsche
            It looked to me like he was trying to emulate Lomachenko in some ways, using throwaway shots to draw the counter, physically pulling Mayweather's guard down at times, and trying to spin him and then punch around the guard. He was just too ungainly to pull it off
            Ya know what, I was thinking of mentioning Lomachenko in my little pre-fight breakdown, on what Conor might use in the fight. That he might flash around Floyd, not just in and out (karate-style) but also left, right, and around like Loma. But ultimately thought it was a bit too much.

            I was impressed with smacking-down of the gloves attempts, at least (wasn't that effective). You don't see many Boxers do that.

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              #16
              Originally posted by Red_Menace
              That uppercut did not appear to hurt floyd at all, and it did not deter him in any way. People need to get over it. Landing one significant punch in a fight is not an achievement. It's literally the purpose of being in the ring, or the cage, or wherever. Conor landed one decent shot, in the first round, and that was it. A combat fighter not trying to throw hard punches is literally the dumbest thing I've ever heard of. It doesn't happen. People throw the power their capable of. Heavy hitters are not loading up on every punch, they just hit ****ing hard. Conor's average punch has zero power.
              It's Floyd Mayweather.
              How often has he ever been really hurt?

              But anyway, my point was that while Conor was effective with the uppercut, he didn't ever really go to his 'big weapons' (the early uppercuts being the exception).

              And it wasn't "one decent shot"... Conor landed nice straight lefts, to the body and the head, actually... just not that signature 'Celtic Cross' that we've seen before.

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                #17
                Originally posted by USMCer
                No, it's not that.

                Conor was trying to take a measured approach... rather than go all out and try to take Floyd out in the early rounds, I imagine the gameplan was to Box for the 12 rounds.

                Poor strategy, in hindsight.

                Conor's best chance was to pour it all out in the first few rounds. Try to set up the big shots. He had the uppercut going, but never really went to that big straight left like he usually does.





                I think he anticipated he would have the stamina to box for all 12 rounds, he did well in the first 4 but poor conditoning and Floyds bodyshots changed the fight.

                Had it been someone like an Andrade in there with Floyd he would have been able to outbox Floyd imo

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                • Szef
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                  #18
                  He couldnt do it. His punching technique is **** which is the case with most of mma guys. If he hired a boxing coach he might have learned some basics and wouldnt have looked like an arm puncher he is. But he chose to stay with kavanagh for this fight which just shows you how delusional he was about his chances vs floyd lol.

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                  • Red_Menace
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                    #19
                    Originally posted by USMCer
                    It's Floyd Mayweather.
                    How often has he ever been really hurt?

                    But anyway, my point was that while Conor was effective with the uppercut, he didn't ever really go to his 'big weapons' (the early uppercuts being the exception).

                    And it wasn't "one decent shot"... Conor landed nice straight lefts, to the body and the head, actually... just not that signature 'Celtic Cross' that we've seen before.
                    Mayweather has been stunned by guys with real power before. He just recovers very well because he has a decent chin. Shane Mosley rocked him twice. McGregor's best punch in the fight, that one counter uppercut, not so much.

                    Connor wasn't effective with much other than his jab, but his jab was more of a probing punch, and not a hard jab. All of his left hands were weak shots, because he throws mostly arm punches. McGegor's famed "Celtic Cross" is basically just a counter left hand, either thrown straight or as an overhand. It's a basic fundamental power punch in boxing. Even the ones that were blocked or missed did not look powerful.

                    I'm having a hard time believing that he would intentionally throw shots that weak. It's just not something you see. The only people that throw weak shots are weak punchers. That's not a knock. That's just how it is. There are many many many boxers that can throw hard punches that are short and fast.

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                    • Sp0rty Cr@ig
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                      #20
                      I don't think he loaded up on his punches either. Threw alot of arm punches it seemed.

                      Why is this a controversial opinion to have? Doesnt mean he didnt try to win. Just that he lacks boxing skills

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