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  • RedZmaja
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    Bob Arum was right about MMA

    Bob Arum about MMA in 2009:

    "I mean it's not a sport that shows great, great talent. The guys who throw punches can't throw a punch to save their ass, when the punches land, the guys have no chins. These are not like boxers!"


    Conor McGregor (the top MMA striker ever who was declared a "hard hitter" with a "death touch" by MMA fans) was EXPOSED as a pillowfisted arm puncher with no endurance and no durability. The guy couldn't hurt a fly and has no chin, absolutely none.

    If Conor is a hard hitter by MMA standards I dread to think how pillowfisted other MMA fighters are. On the other hand boxers would probably put people in coma with those 4 oz gloves, imagine Canelo unloading combos on those chinny MMA fighters.
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    • devildg
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      yes but in MMA he is allowed to kick, knee, elbow, grabble to subdue his opponent. When he lands his punches, it acts as a SUPPLEMENT to his other attacks. In boxing, he is exclusively punching.

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      • ELPacman
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        Another reason why you can't compare the two sports. Boxers have been getting hit in the face/head since very young in training/sparring. I mean nonstop for years. It's almost like it's hardened their head. In MMA, your being hit all over the place and taken down trying to see how far you can stretch like a pretzel before tapping. These guys aren't being conditioned to take punches to the head for 12 rds.

        Boxers are throwing punches in training 24/7. All the muscles being used for throwing a punch are being strengthened whether you are a puncher or not. Your ability to take a punch goes up as you get more comfortable with it. In other words, everything in stand up is leveled up minus requiring any kicking/elbowing.

        Taking a guy who is above average in striking in MMA and putting him in with a boxer, of course a lot of what he did not have to train early on start to show up. And yes, I know Conor started with boxing at an early age but I'm sure he abandoned getting really good at it when he made the switch.

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        • The Problem Child
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          McGregor lasted 10 rounds and won most of them in boxing. Floyd wouldn't last 1 minute in MMA.

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          • littlemac
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            #6
            Originally posted by devildg
            yes but in MMA he is allowed to kick, knee, elbow, grabble to subdue his opponent. When he lands his punches, it acts as a SUPPLEMENT to his other attacks. In boxing, he is exclusively punching.
            Which is why boxing fans watch boxing because we only care about the punch aspect of fighting and nobody does it better then boxing.

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            • champion4ever
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              #7
              Originally posted by ELPacman
              Another reason why you can't compare the two sports. Boxers have been getting hit in the face/head since very young in training/sparring. I mean nonstop for years. It's almost like it's hardened their head. In MMA, your being hit all over the place and taken down trying to see how far you can stretch like a pretzel before tapping. These guys aren't being conditioned to take punches to the head for 12 rds.

              Boxers are throwing punches in training 24/7. All the muscles being used for throwing a punch are being strengthened whether you are a puncher or not. Your ability to take a punch goes up as you get more comfortable with it. In other words, everything in stand up is leveled up minus requiring any kicking/elbowing.

              Taking a guy who is above average in striking in MMA and putting him in with a boxer, of course a lot of what he did not have to train early on start to show up. And yes, I know Conor started with boxing at an early age but I'm sure he abandoned getting really good at it when he made the switch.
              Great Post!

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              • Eff Pandas
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                #8
                Originally posted by ELPacman
                Boxers are throwing punches in training 24/7. All the muscles being used for throwing a punch are being strengthened whether you are a puncher or not. Your ability to take a punch goes up as you get more comfortable with it. In other words, everything in stand up is leveled up minus requiring any kicking/elbowing.
                I really like the way you put this & tend to agree with this kinda thinking.

                Its like those cats who do a kettlebell workout to have a stronger core physical strength vs guys who just dead life or do curls kinda sorta I guess you could say. When everything you do is punching that makes all the rest of your body evolve towards punching & things that help you in boxing. When you do multiple disciplines that makes all the rest of your body evolve towards those multiple disciplines & would make you less than optimal in any specific discipline vs all of them combined.

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                • McNulty
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                  #9
                  Originally posted by RedZmaja
                  Bob Arum about MMA in 2009:

                  "I mean it's not a sport that shows great, great talent. The guys who throw punches can't throw a punch to save their ass, when the punches land, the guys have no chins. These are not like boxers!"


                  Conor McGregor (the top MMA striker ever who was declared a "hard hitter" with a "death touch" by MMA fans) was EXPOSED as a pillowfisted arm puncher with no endurance and no durability. The guy couldn't hurt a fly and has no chin, absolutely none.

                  If Conor is a hard hitter by MMA standards I dread to think how pillowfisted other MMA fighters are. On the other hand boxers would probably put people in coma with those 4 oz gloves, imagine Canelo unloading combos on those chinny MMA fighters.
                  Arum might be evil as fück but the man has real knowledge.

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                  • Jsmooth9876
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                    Disagree about Conor not being able to take a punch, he didn't go down, he was gassed and taking some flush shots for 2 rounds straight.

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