So is GGG still short work ?

[stealthradon]

He beat Taylor the first time imo, and Tito was elite, even if not a big mw. Johnson might've been green, but he sure did fight everyone he could and won plenty along with getting robbed plenty. How successful have any of golovkins previous opponents been like that? I'll wait.

You didn't ask who he beat that was elite. You asked who he fought that was elite at 160.

You mean the guy with only one loss in his career, with a good amateur pedigree? (Jacobs)
Lemieux with an even better track record?
The previously undefeated Brook?
Murray who only lost to Martinez before (in a close fight)?
Daniel Geale who had never been stopped before the GGG fight, and had quite a few belts?

Are you saying that none of them are better than a guy who lost to Merqui Sosa?

[Metho_4u]

You mean the guy with only one loss in his career, with a good amateur pedigree? (Jacobs)
Lemieux with an even better track record?
The previously undefeated Brook?
Murray who only lost to Martinez before (in a close fight)?
Daniel Geale who had never been stopped before the GGG fight, and had quite a few belts?

Are you saying that none of them are better than a guy who lost to Merqui Sosa?

Geale got his ass beat by a 153 lb Cotto 1 rd later...lol

Lemieux that was already stopped by Rubio and lost to a jmw? Oh, he beat Stevens though so that makes him great right?

Brook? Are you serious? You're actually bragging about that win? A guy who jumped 2 full weight classes and still lit golovkin up?

Murrary...no power, just a big mw which is why Martinez struggled with him? Murray who lost to old Abraham? Had a draw with old and shot Sturm? Lol lol ooook!

#golovkinisanhbohypejob
#golovkinthebumbeater

[Diego Rodriguez]

But there is no parallel for their careers...Hopkins truly came from nothing, boxing in prison, got out and went pro, he didn't have a long amateur career with 400 fights, hbo sucking his d1ck, wasn't a privileged fighter in any way. He worked his way up through the pro ranks, got ripped off on some decisions, and then moved up and beat a lot of guys he wasn't supposed to beat. When has golovkin never been a huge favorite? Until this fight with canelo...and that's solely because of ****ty competition. So my question to you is when the f-ck did YOU start watching boxing???

I'm also not the one who brought Hopkins name up in the first place you fuggin gaylovekin tool handler...and bringing up Hagler? Seriously bringing up an atg vs an at no time great? If Hagler only fought Hearns and Leonard and no one else, that ****s all over your boyfriends resume.

So go f-ck yourself in your f@ggot ass with your mother's ***** before you think you "destroyed" anyone...****** d1ck eater.

Corky you are too dumb, and I'm not joking, to have an even semi serious argument with. If you can't understand at this point why I brought up Hopkins and drew a parallel with his career up to the Tito fight and Golovkin up to this point you'll never understand. Your IQ is simply too low.

Now run along mental midget I'm tired of beating you up.

[stealthradon]

Geale got his ass beat by a 153 lb Cotto 1 rd later...lol

Lemieux that was already stopped by Rubio and lost to a jmw? Oh, he beat Stevens though so that makes him great right?

Brook? Are you serious? You're actually bragging about that win? A guy who jumped 2 full weight classes and still lit golovkin up?

Murrary...no power, just a big mw which is why Martinez struggled with him? Murray who lost to old Abraham? Had a draw with old and shot Sturm? Lol lol ooook!

#golovkinisanhbohypejob
#golovkinthebumbeater

Still better than a guy who lost to Lebedev. By KO. Bernand beat RJJ when he was in a bad period. How the hell he got the win over Glazewski.. "ESPN's Dan Rafael scored the bout 97-92 for Glazewski and BoxingScene had it 98-91 for Glazewski."
In between getting KO'd in the first round by Green. So while RJJ might have been a HOF, that was certainly not the time.

You then mentioned Glen Johnson. Which we already discussed.

DLH already lost to Mosley. And the fight vs Sturm was robbery.
So DLH was not that great.

You mention how Brook got up in weight, what about Trinidad?

Joppy was not elite.

[Metho_4u]

Corky you are too dumb, and I'm not joking, to have an even semi serious argument with. If you can't understand at this point why I brought up Hopkins and drew a parallel with his career up to the Tito fight and Golovkin up to this point you'll never understand. Your IQ is simply too low.

Now run along mental midget I'm tired of beating you up.

That's what I thought...have nothing to say because you're a b1tch

[Metho_4u]

Still better than a guy who lost to Lebedev. By KO. Bernand beat RJJ when he was in a bad period. How the hell he got the win over Glazewski.. "ESPN's Dan Rafael scored the bout 97-92 for Glazewski and BoxingScene had it 98-91 for Glazewski."
In between getting KO'd in the first round by Green. So while RJJ might have been a HOF, that was certainly not the time.

You then mentioned Glen Johnson. Which we already discussed.

DLH already lost to Mosley. And the fight vs Sturm was robbery.
So DLH was not that great.

You mention how Brook got up in weight, what about Trinidad?

Joppy was not elite.

Once again, you asked who did he fight at 160....johnson went on to have an excellent career, fighting everyone there was to fight. Hopkins fought a PRIME RJJ...an atg...he fought DOH and Tito...BOTH HOFers.....who's golovkin beaten that's either one of those again? Oh yeah...neither lol.

[Diego Rodriguez]

-So a loss.

-Glen Johnson would be considered a bum. His only fight before Hopkins was Sam Garr. Before Sam Garr his 10 previous fights were against 95/180 fighters. Almost none had a positive record. Some of them didn't even have wins.

-DLH yes

-Trinidad was hardly a middleweight

-Joppy was no more elite than Jacobs would be.

-Two more losses.

So, I'll give you 2 points out of 5.

Here's the point Corey doesn't understand, who were the 5 elite fighters that Hopkins faced prior to Trinidad?

RJJ no doubt, Hops lost.

Beyond that he didn't face another elite fighter before he faced Trinidad. He faced some solid guys but there was a reason he heard the same type of criticism that Golovkin is hearing now about weak competition and a weak division. But the reality is his competition wasn't as weak as people said, it wasn't great but Hopkins was just that good. He opened as a 3-1 underdog vs. Trinidad. That tells you there was a fair amount of disrespect for Hopkins. Yes people liked Tito but 3-1 also had to do with people not realizing how good Hops was. This was after all the Tito who should have lost to DLH.

Hops faced solid competition from Holmes to Simon Brown (though Brown was clearly past his best). Glen Johnson came on very late in his career and beat some guys way past their prime but I guess you can argue that was Hops best win as he gave Johnson is first loss. Johnson went on to lose many fights immediately after Hops. I wish I could tell you about Jeff Lipsey, I have no clue who he was but he was undefeated until he fought Hops though he never fought again. Maybe someone knows about him.

Again the parallel between his career pre-Tito and Golovkin right now is very similar. We know what Hopkins did after the Tito fight. He stuck around the division for many title defenses (setting the record) and eventually fighting DLH (3 years after Hops). He took a catchweight fight which was unusual because in his own words DLH was not a natural MW (and he wanted that money). I have absolutely no hate for the man, he did what was smart and career defining).

After the DLH he still fought at MW and eventually lost to Taylor. Then he moved up and continued to do amazing things.

If one cannot understand how someone can compare GGG and Hopkins at similar points in their career they are either purposely being defiant or an idiot (that's you Metho).

[Metho_4u]

So, do you think golovkin will move up and do what Hopkins was able to? Please say yes lmao

[Diego Rodriguez]

That's what I thought...have nothing to say because you're a b1tch

Read below Corkster. You're in worse shape than Pac here.

[Metho_4u]

Read below Corkster. You're in worse shape than Pac here.

Why are you so mad that your buttlover is a hypejob?