So is GGG still short work ?

[Metho_4u]

Just because a boxer says he will fight from 154-168 does not have a time frame and must be worth it. Ward cant even draw flies to his ****!!! GGG said 1st he had to finish his weight class which now he is fighting the best in Canelo and probably 10000x the money. Every boxer fights the elite of there class before ever moving up.
Ward lost his 1st fight to kol. 2nd he low blowed to make him quit!! Some great guy!!!
At 168 I would bet on GGG at 175 that might be more then GGG can weigh without lossing much speed. Canelo is the # 1 attraction in boxing today!!! GGG FIGHT WILL DRAW OVER A MILLION BUYS WITH EASE!!
Wards fights even on tv are closer to 350k lmao.

Wow! So golovkin needs to fight an elite before he moves up? You realize you just admitted he has ZERO elite fighters on his resume right?

Why has he mentioned retirement after the canelo fight? Why has he made a career fighting C level fighters and then people like you jump ALLLLLL over his jock? You're blinded by his nutsack in your face, and HBO praising his every pathetic win.

He is a LIAR! 154-168 means...only 160 because it's between them lol the guys a pathetic hype job.

Ward isn't a draw? Mr 97k is though? IF this ppv does well...it won't be because of golovkin you moron.

[Metho_4u]

Of course you don't want to talk about history because it doesn't fit your narrative. I'm also sure it bothers you that I referenced black fighters to make a point. Funny how you don't want to talk about those guys but then try and make a point using one of those guys. You're a moron, LOL!

Unlike you I won't run away from your argument. DLH was like Mayweather, if you have a chance to fight him and make all that money you did it. I don't think Hopkins agreed to a catch weight for Tito. I love you Golovkin haters. You have more hate for Golovkin not dropping down in weight than Canelo who could have easily made the weight. Golovkin is the bad guy when there was absolutely no reason for the MIDDLEWEIGHT TITLE to be fought at less than 160.

I've learned you can't teach common sense to a dolt. You're a dolt and is obvious to me you haven't accomplished crap in your own life. Your just a bitter pathetic man. Beat it loser.

What am I bitter about exactly? I didn't say hopkins fought Tito at a cw...however, he did for oscar and canelo is gaylovekin's oscar...yet he would consider nothing but 160. Ward? Had to be 164...Froch? 166, even though Froch can fill Wembley stadium lol he's had NO intention to move up, just accept it and you'll be ok. Facts are nice huh.

Btw, how many p4p or future HOF fighters has that hype job fought again? Oh yeah...NONE

[Diego Rodriguez]

What am I bitter about exactly? I didn't say hopkins fought Tito at a cw...however, he did for oscar and canelo is gaylovekin's oscar...yet he would consider nothing but 160. Ward? Had to be 164...Froch? 166, even though Froch can fill Wembley stadium lol he's had NO intention to move up, just accept it and you'll be ok. Facts are nice huh.

Btw, how many p4p or future HOF fighters has that hype job fought again? Oh yeah...NONE

I didn't say you said Tito fought him at CW, I just mentioned that he didn't. There was no reason to fight at CW, everyone knew it then and now. And they aren't fighting at CW now. Had Golovkin agreed to it I have no doubt De La Hoya would have found another excuse. The CW was just another road block DLH wanted to throw up. DLH had no desire for Canelo to fight Golovkin at that point. I actually think Canelo would have fought Golovkin if it was his choice.

I don't think he wanted to move up without being the man at 160lbs. I do think that if he is able to unify the titles at 160lbs he'll likely move on. You don't have any facts, you have a bunch of BS that you want to throw up. I don't think any of these guys avoided each other. Guys talk but there were no real discussions on any part. Funny how you fail to mention that Ward said no to a fight before because of his promoter/shoulder. Funny how you fail to mention Froch talked about the fight being at a CW of 172lbs. Again nothing serious came about.

I've already said his resume unfortunately is weaker than it should be and as just about everyone in boxing knows that had to do with guys in the MW division ducking him until recently (Martinez, Cotto and Canelo). Now he'll get a shot to prove himself, just like Hopkins did against Tito. If he fails he'll be regarded as a "hype" job. If he wins he'll get credit from everyone except the real haters (and the people who are more focused on the color of skin). I remember the same types of clowns where saying that Hops was overrated and didn't beat anyone. Most experts picked Tito. After he beat down Tito they shut up. But that's right you don't want to talk about Hopkins.

[Diego Rodriguez]

Wow! So golovkin needs to fight an elite before he moves up? You realize you just admitted he has ZERO elite fighters on his resume right?

Why has he mentioned retirement after the canelo fight? Why has he made a career fighting C level fighters and then people like you jump ALLLLLL over his jock? You're blinded by his nutsack in your face, and HBO praising his every pathetic win.

He is a LIAR! 154-168 means...only 160 because it's between them lol the guys a pathetic hype job.

Ward isn't a draw? Mr 97k is though? IF this ppv does well...it won't be because of golovkin you moron.

He does have zero elite fighters on his resume but he is lined up to fight one now (regardless of what you think Canelo is considered an elite fighter). He has another "elite" fighter who says he wants to fight him if he wins in December.

What I think Golovkin wanted and any other boxer in his position would want is to to be recognized as the best in the division and to get the big pay days. He still wasn't the lineal champion, he still had not unified all the belts and the biggest money fights he could make were in this division. He is in the best situation right now he could hope for. Any fighter in his given situation would not do differently.

The retirement talk was no big deal. Sanchez even talked about it. The guy's note a native English speaker so things like this can easily be misunderstood. It is like you hear one thing and run with it like a rabid dog. By the way Golovkin has did 150K and 170K in his PPVs. Not too bad considering where he came from and the fact he didn't have a big name opponent. Meanwhile Ward did 165K against Kovalev and only 130K in the rematch. So where you getting 97K??? Of course Canelo will make the PPV. But facing Golovkin will make it bigger.

I think Golovkin is hell of a fighter. I think if guys in the MW division hadn't avoided him he'd have united the division likely be at 168lbs right now. But things didn't work out that way. He'll have a chance to finally make his mark on 9/16. Everything is in his hands now.

I'm also tired of the haters. It is blatantly obvious that a good amount of that hate comes down to his skin color. The racial and ethnic prejudices exist on all sides and some fighters incur it more than others. Golovkin is one of those guys.

[Hype job]

Straight up and down, no special effects.

#StrapSeason #ManDown #LionsOnly

[Metho_4u]

He does have zero elite fighters on his resume but he is lined up to fight one now (regardless of what you think Canelo is considered an elite fighter). He has another "elite" fighter who says he wants to fight him if he wins in December.

What I think Golovkin wanted and any other boxer in his position would want is to to be recognized as the best in the division and to get the big pay days. He still wasn't the lineal champion, he still had not unified all the belts and the biggest money fights he could make were in this division. He is in the best situation right now he could hope for. Any fighter in his given situation would not do differently.

The retirement talk was no big deal. Sanchez even talked about it. The guy's note a native English speaker so things like this can easily be misunderstood. It is like you hear one thing and run with it like a rabid dog. By the way Golovkin has did 150K and 170K in his PPVs. Not too bad considering where he came from and the fact he didn't have a big name opponent. Meanwhile Ward did 165K against Kovalev and only 130K in the rematch. So where you getting 97K??? Of course Canelo will make the PPV. But facing Golovkin will make it bigger.

I think Golovkin is hell of a fighter. I think if guys in the MW division hadn't avoided him he'd have united the division likely be at 168lbs right now. But things didn't work out that way. He'll have a chance to finally make his mark on 9/16. Everything is in his hands now.

I'm also tired of the haters. It is blatantly obvious that a good amount of that hate comes down to his skin color. The racial and ethnic prejudices exist on all sides and some fighters incur it more than others. Golovkin is one of those guys.

Well, yet again, I have to remind people that I'm white...i get sick of the race card as well....the fact is that had Golovkin taken the same route lomachenco did I'd bed a fan of his right now, just like I'm a fan of lomachenco.

Froch said AFTER he was offered 166 "tell him 172 and I'll think about it...again, why the hell would 172 lbs matter to the great golovkin? He's p4p right? He's worried he'd lose to a out of prime, ring rusted Carl Froch? That makes no sense. Ward never turned a fight down, he had a long lay off and said he wanted each of them to have 1 fight before making that fight. From Golovkins OWN MOUTH he said "Andre...he's too much for me". He knows Ward would whip his ass, and so does everyone here. Golovkin WILL NOT move up...guaranteed.

[Diego Rodriguez]

Well, yet again, I have to remind people that I'm white...i get sick of the race card as well....the fact is that had Golovkin taken the same route lomachenco did I'd bed a fan of his right now, just like I'm a fan of lomachenco.

Froch said AFTER he was offered 166 "tell him 172 and I'll think about it...again, why the hell would 172 lbs matter to the great golovkin? He's p4p right? He's worried he'd lose to a out of prime, ring rusted Carl Froch? That makes no sense. Ward never turned a fight down, he had a long lay off and said he wanted each of them to have 1 fight before making that fight. From Golovkins OWN MOUTH he said "Andre...he's too much for me". He knows Ward would whip his ass, and so does everyone here. Golovkin WILL NOT move up...guaranteed.

Well maybe if Golovkin had followed Loma it would be different. The fact he was in the US first makes it a little difficult. You don't consider the possibility that Golovkin actually opened the door for other E. European fighters?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E9IDZZImEUo

Golovkin came from Kazakhstan, then went to Europe and finally he came here when things didn't work out. I'd say he's made a journey to get to here and done what he could to be the best fighter at 160lbs. If your such a Loma fan maybe you can take a few lessons from him, he considers Golovkin the best pound for pound fighter. You can disagree but he clearly thinks he is a top notch fighter. Again you'd look like a fool if you told him Golovkin wasn't one of the best today.

GTFO your arguments are moronic. So Golovkin was supposed to jump to 172lbs from 160lbs to make a fight and then go back to 160lbs. The more you write the more I realize how clueless you are about boxing or using common sense. I don't think Ward ducked Golovkin but if I used your ****** types of arguments I could cry all day that he didn't want to fight Golovkin. But I take him at his word that he couldn't because of promoter/shoulder issues. That isn't to say he wouldn't have been willing to make the fight later just like Golovkin might have been willing to make a Ward fight at some point. Just because Golovkin didn't drop everything he'd been working for in an instant (chance to be the clear cut man at 160 and the big money fights) doesn't mean he wouldn't have been willing to make that fight at another point.

Again you hate the guy so much that anything you can latch on to you run with like a rabid dog. The guy is not fluent in English and that is well known. There were no follow-up questions and there is nothing you'll find where Golovkin has said Ward would have been too tough for him.

Someone posted this in the thread about the video:
the question being asked to GGG is what do u say to andre ward who says u're ducking him. then GGG reply with andre is too much for me, as in the bickering about GGG ducking him. i dont think GGG meant andre is too much for him to consider fighting.

Anyways I've had enough with you hater. I've learned watching sports that the nut huggers and the haters are the two biggest losers. Got so little in their life that this is what they get fixated on.

[Metho_4u]

Well maybe if Golovkin had followed Loma it would be different. The fact he was in the US first makes it a little difficult. You don't consider the possibility that Golovkin actually opened the door for other E. European fighters?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E9IDZZImEUo

Golovkin came from Kazakhstan, then went to Europe and finally he came here when things didn't work out. I'd say he's made a journey to get to here and done what he could to be the best fighter at 160lbs. If your such a Loma fan maybe you can take a few lessons from him, he considers Golovkin the best pound for pound fighter. You can disagree but he clearly thinks he is a top notch fighter. Again you'd look like a fool if you told him Golovkin wasn't one of the best today.

GTFO your arguments are moronic. So Golovkin was supposed to jump to 172lbs from 160lbs to make a fight and then go back to 160lbs. The more you write the more I realize how clueless you are about boxing or using common sense. I don't think Ward ducked Golovkin but if I used your ****** types of arguments I could cry all day that he didn't want to fight Golovkin. But I take him at his word that he couldn't because of promoter/shoulder issues. That isn't to say he wouldn't have been willing to make the fight later just like Golovkin might have been willing to make a Ward fight at some point. Just because Golovkin didn't drop everything he'd been working for in an instant (chance to be the clear cut man at 160 and the big money fights) doesn't mean he wouldn't have been willing to make that fight at another point.

Again you hate the guy so much that anything you can latch on to you run with like a rabid dog. The guy is not fluent in English and that is well known. There were no follow-up questions and there is nothing you'll find where Golovkin has said Ward would have been too tough for him.

Someone posted this in the thread about the video:
the question being asked to GGG is what do u say to andre ward who says u're ducking him. then GGG reply with andre is too much for me, as in the bickering about GGG ducking him. i dont think GGG meant andre is too much for him to consider fighting.

Anyways I've had enough with you hater. I've learned watching sports that the nut huggers and the haters are the two biggest losers. Got so little in their life that this is what they get fixated on.

Lomachenco is being humble calling him #1 p4p...hes not, not even close. Lomachenco has more right to call himself #1 than golovkin.

Contrary to what you think...golovkin has taken the easy route, 160 lbs was a wasteland the ENTIRE time he's been there...now that charlo is the mandatory for the winner, Sanchez says "he has to earn his shot" as if golovkin is some huge star that sells millions of ppvs, he can't even break 100k without an opponent that people know. Buyers for this fight aren't buying for golovkin...they are getting it because of canelo.

You keep hanging on his sack though, and remember when he fights canelo, he's, yet again, fighting a guy that has moved up....not ever once moving up to seek greatness...he'd rather fight weak champions, in a weak division. Canelo will be his best opponent win or lose.

[Diego Rodriguez]

Lomachenco is being humble calling him #1 p4p...hes not, not even close. Lomachenco has more right to call himself #1 than golovkin.

Contrary to what you think...golovkin has taken the easy route, 160 lbs was a wasteland the ENTIRE time he's been there...now that charlo is the mandatory for the winner, Sanchez says "he has to earn his shot" as if golovkin is some huge star that sells millions of ppvs, he can't even break 100k without an opponent that people know. Buyers for this fight aren't buying for golovkin...they are getting it because of canelo.

You keep hanging on his sack though, and remember when he fights canelo, he's, yet again, fighting a guy that has moved up....not ever once moving up to seek greatness...he'd rather fight weak champions, in a weak division. Canelo will be his best opponent win or lose.

Say what you want but regardless Loma considers him P4P #1. At the very least you should acknowledge Loma thinks Golovkin is a top notch fighter. You and some of the other clowns on here are on a lonely island when you don't think Golovkin is even close to being a top P4P fighter. Again just shows you haven't got a clue about boxing.

The middleweight division is a wasteland? With each passing post you get more ridiculous. This wasteland that has had Hopkins, Taylor, Tito, DLH, Pavlik, Martinez, Cotto and Canelo all in it. It is one of the glamour divisions in boxing history. You must be a casual fan because any true boxing fan knows the significance of the middleweight division.

Now you are throwing up Charlo. LMAO! Golovkin isn't a huge star but as usual you and facts don't mix. Golovkin has done 150k and 170K PPV in the US. He is way more popular than Charlo. All I want with Charlo is for him to continue to fight while Golovkin does his thing.

Obviously Canelo is the A side but it takes two to make a mega fight. If this fight generates millions of PPV it isn't just because of Canelo.

You are already saying no matter what happens against Canelo you'll still be hating. That's why you are a loser and I guarantee you're a loser in life too. Talking about greatness when I'm sure you haven't even accomplished mediocrity in your life. Get lost chump.

[Metho_4u]

Say what you want but regardless Loma considers him P4P #1. At the very least you should acknowledge Loma thinks Golovkin is a top notch fighter. You and some of the other clowns on here are on a lonely island when you don't think Golovkin is even close to being a top P4P fighter. Again just shows you haven't got a clue about boxing.

The middleweight division is a wasteland? With each passing post you get more ridiculous. This wasteland that has had Hopkins, Taylor, Tito, DLH, Pavlik, Martinez, Cotto and Canelo all in it. It is one of the glamour divisions in boxing history. You must be a casual fan because any true boxing fan knows the significance of the middleweight division.

Now you are throwing up Charlo. LMAO! Golovkin isn't a huge star but as usual you and facts don't mix. Golovkin has done 150k and 170K PPV in the US. He is way more popular than Charlo. All I want with Charlo is for him to continue to fight while Golovkin does his thing.

Obviously Canelo is the A side but it takes two to make a mega fight. If this fight generates millions of PPV it isn't just because of Canelo.

You are already saying no matter what happens against Canelo you'll still be hating. That's why you are a loser and I guarantee you're a loser in life too. Talking about greatness when I'm sure you haven't even accomplished mediocrity in your life. Get lost chump.

Asswad...i said it was a wasteland...as in the entire time golovkin has been the top guy there...who was there? Macklin? Rosado, lemieux, geale, Stevens, Murray? Yeah, that's a top division alright. Everyone but you seems to understand that he's a weak champion in a weak division.

Lol you haved to get all personal because I insulted your boyfriend huh? It's ok, I understand the truth hurts.