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  • New England
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    #41
    Originally posted by soul_survivor
    I'm a boxing fan and I am no way in denial. Mcgregor won 4 rounds, Mayweather won 4 (had one even). McGregor was out landing and out boxing Mayweather at times. What let him down was what has let him down at times in the UFC and that is poor stamina. Is it genetics? Is it poor nutrition? I don't know but with a better negine he owuld have stopped Fraud Mayweather.

    I was probably one of the worst anti-Mac perpetrators on this forum, I labeled him a clown, a joke etc etc but he has earned a lot of respect from me after last night.

    Mac has a boxing career ahead of him if he so wishes.


    poor stamina? the guy made his debut last night. it's not some flaw in his training or nutrition, it's a matter of making your debut over 12 rounds against a hall of famer in a sport where youusually go four rounds against another guy making his debut, or at the very least a guy without 10+ fights or a winning record.


    mcgregor is actually a world class athlete and showed that he was in great shape last night. he hit a wall after about twice as many rounds as most boxing people suspected, and much later than most debuting boxers could ever dream of.

    my hat actually goes off to that guy. he did OK in my book, certainly well enough to save face. the writing was on the wall after 3 rounds, when his power clearly started to fade, but the guy did damn good for a debuting fighter.

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    • ironmt
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      #42
      Originally posted by soul_survivor
      He would know about anaemia or any such thing. Very easy to diagnose especially for a fighter.

      I just heard he drinks alot that causes severe problems. Plus his team do not seem all that professional
      He was drinking whiskey at the post fight press conference so I would assume you are correct on his drinking habit.

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      • Szef
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        #43
        Is 24/7 Canelo - Golovkin online yet? I can't find anywhere.

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        • SlySlickSmooth
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          #44
          Originally posted by slimshandy69
          Irrrelevant. You claimed being inactive was a excuse for floyd losing many rounds and getting clocked many times.

          Wlad being almost 2 years inactive schooled and pulvarised joshua who is a PROFESSIONAL PRIME TOP LEVEL BOXER.

          Connor mcgregor never had a tune up fight, not even a 4 round pro fight, hes 0 and 0 pre fight, and mayweather looked lost in there.

          He should have done whay randy couture did to jamex tony, but it was a good competitive fight.

          You are in denial.....
          I just think if Floyd had fought in his usual style it would of been a wash. I think Conor won the first three rounds, but I also think Floyd has been giving away the first 2 rounds his last couple fights.

          Floyd wasn't cutting off the ring, didn't jab as much, and just walked in a straight line with a high guard. Does that sound like Floyd Mayweather? No.

          Had he fought in his usual stinker style, you'd still be just as pitiful as you are now.

          If you think I'm in some type of denial, that's fine. I don't think there's anything wrong with admitting Conor's striking translated better than most thought. Although, refer to my second paragraph again.

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            #45
            Originally posted by DJ Enerate
            It wouldn't matter. A guy as skilled in MMA as Mcgregor would toy with any version of Floyd. Mcgregor is very persistant and effective with kicks which are truly debilitating when delivered by a guy as skilled and agile as Mcgregor. Floyd wouldnt know what the **** was happening to him being striked by bone breaking leg kicks. Especially since his skinny legs are not conditioned to deal with them at all. He'd fold from leg kicks alone never mind grappling.

            And why are you on about arm reach like it would mean **** in the Octagon ? The last I checked legs were longer than arms and the top stand up MMA guys use them like jabs to weaken opponents legs before getting serious. I'm not even an MMA fan, It's just reality. Floyd would get seriously dealt with in the Octagon vs Mcgregor. It would be all over in 30 seconds. A younger Floyd would have definitely dealt with Mcgregor earlier in a boxing ring though. Inside 4 rounds easily.
            I've been watching mma for a very long time, legs kick would be very dangerous but I doubt a prime mayweather, who in this scenerio is prime, longer, heavier and bigger boned allows himself to be ended that quickly on leg kicks (albeit a well placed one on an newby is fight ending) if old fat mercer could take a few, or old fat ali, and this aint old fat toney. I would strongly favour floyd to come in actually taking it seriously and move like he did vs pacquiao to avoid kicks and takedowns, and floyd can punch off that movement, he'll posses the power to easily end an old retired conor easily ith a single punch as he's trying to keep up with the foot speed. Floyd in this scenerio would have training to check kicks bit it obviously wont be enough, but one can fairly effectively step out of range and then pounce back in with an offensive, legs arent as long as you're imagining, people do this all the time.

            If it was a prime floyd vs a 40 year old, smaller etc george st. pierre then I would worry.

            In boxing an mma guy will have a hard time outdoing a boxer in anything, but in mma the boxer will have the advantage with the hands.

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              #46
              Originally posted by New England
              poor stamina? the guy made his debut last night. it's not some flaw in his training or nutrition, it's a matter of making your debut over 12 rounds against a hall of famer in a sport where youusually go four rounds against another guy making his debut, or at the very least a guy without 10+ fights or a winning record.


              mcgregor is actually a world class athlete and showed that he was in great shape last night. he hit a wall after about twice as many rounds as most boxing people suspected, and much later than most debuting boxers could ever dream of.

              my hat actually goes off to that guy. he did OK in my book, certainly well enough to save face. the writing was on the wall after 3 rounds, when his power clearly started to fade, but the guy did damn good for a debuting fighter.
              In every of his 3 MMA losses he gassed. He most definitely has poor stamina and everybody knew it would be a big factor in this fight.

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                #47
                Originally posted by Szef
                In every of his 3 MMA losses he gassed. He most definitely has poor stamina and everybody knew it would be a big factor in this fight.



                how in the world can you say a guy has poor stamina when he boxes 9 rounds with floyd mayweather in his debut? that's actually an incredible accomplishment for an athlete. the guy was in shape. nutrition


                if only he'd had eaten his kale he'd have a knockout win over floyd mayweather!


                if only he'd taken two dozen fights and learned how to pace himself for 12 rounds and get a second wind is much more appropriate. the guy was in fine shape, you guys are nuts if you disagree. in fact, he probably trained too much
                Last edited by New England; 08-27-2017, 05:53 AM.

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                • DJ Enerate
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                  #48
                  Originally posted by cammoking123
                  Did you watch the pre-fight vlogs? They show Floyd roller skating and eating burger king. And what the hell do I need to make excuses for? Floyd won and beat Mcgregor easy, unlike Duran who lost to SRL because he was lazy
                  I never watched the pre fight stuff but I'll take your word for it. No way Floyd let's himself go though. It's all just psychology play from the May camp. I certainly don't buy it.

                  Yes, Floyd won easily but other similar weight greats at 40 yo would have destroyed Mcgregor. Duran would have absolutely.

                  Yup, Duran lost to SRL due to indiscipline and a change of tact from team Leonard. Duran still has a huge win over Leonard though which is considered one of the greatest wins in boxing history. Ray Leonard was ****ing amazing though and better than Mayweather let's be honest. Duran a natural lightweight on the edge of his prime beat Ray Leonard in his prime at his natural weight which is truly epic stuff.

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                  • soul_survivor
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                    #49
                    Originally posted by ironmt
                    He was drinking whiskey at the post fight press conference so I would assume you are correct on his drinking habit.
                    We've all seen what alcohol can do to good fighters. Hatton, fury... Just to name two.

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                    • penontock
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                      #50
                      I don't know how much McGregor drinks, but that whisky stunt at the end was just to advertise his own whisky --Notorious whisky or whatever it was called.

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