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I genuinely like MMA and I think Conor and Bones Jones are the best in the biz. However, like the poaster N!ck F said these guys are in over there heads thinking they can literally "box with a boxer". Folks don't understand how much power you need to generate to knock a man out with 12-8oz gloves in a sanctioned bout vs 4oz gloves. Nor do they understand how hard it is truly land on a guy with slightly above average footwork compared to their non existent footwork. I'd wager if you put Bones Jones in the squared circle and give him a heavy handed middle to super middleweight to spar with he would get dropped by the 4th or 5th round. I'm only giving him that much because he's exceptionally athletic, has an insane reach advantage over the hypothetical middleweight and has somewhat fast hands by mma standards
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agreed...some of the mma guys are getting all worked up...guy at work, who loves to bet on mma, is texing me articles about how the line has gone down and all of this and that.....
this is like putting the worlds best cricket player in a HR derby against barry bonds at at&t parkComment
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Why not just let people enjoy sh^t how they wanna enjoy sh^t and have fun with the new cats who might be paying attention to boxing for the first time ever?Comment
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N!ck F was also the same phaggot that wrote a long post telling us why Floyd being 40 proves his age is the only reason he might lose. He is clearly someone who talks out of both sides of his mouth.Comment
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Who cares. Let 'em get excited, that's what it's all about. Live and let live. No doubt they will see that Conor way out of his depth come Saturday anyway.
The trolls are annoying but i don't the genuine MMA fans that think Conor can win. It would be boring if everyone had the same opinion.Comment
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Boxing fans get worked because we feel MMA fans are disrespecting our sport.
It's nothing against MMA athletes but the fact is they have too many trades to work on vs somebody who spends day in and day out punching. These ****ers need to learn bjj, muay thai, wrestling ...etc. That's no an easy task, but it's also the same reason a boxer like Malik Scott or Tony Thompson would first round KO Brock Lesnar without breaking a sweat.Comment
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They don't understand that the boxing community is more demanding and you need to prove yourself in actual pro fights against quality opposition in order to impress anyone in the boxing game.
MMA fans and Conor fans in particular are all butthurt because the boxing community wasn't immediately impressed by Conor before he even stepped in the ring.
UFC is basically like WWE and has the same type of fans that like to be fed bull**** and buy into any sort of hype. We're talking about a sport that promoted Ronda as a once ever human being and look how that ended up.
In boxing, no one gives a **** about how good you look in training or in sparring or in some other sport. Even established champions like GGG or Wilder aren't given credit by some fans because they haven't beaten a marquee name yet. Olympic gold medalist Joshua was doubted by a lot of people before he beat Klitschko. That's just the way the boxing community is. Of course someone who is 0-0 and claims he's going to KO Floyd inside 4 rounds is going to be laughed at.
MMA fans don't understand this and think that boxing fans are arrogant yet in reality it's the MMA fans who are totally ignorant and oblivious about boxing and most of them never watched any serious boxing other than Mike Tyson and RJJ highlights.
Then they come up with ridiculous claims like "McGregor is not going to box like a conventional boxer" and "boxers are too used to their style and don't think outside of the box" as if there is a single style of boxing. Also there's this whole strawman thing that "boxers don't want to learn anything new" when in reality boxing sees a lot of completely new and inovative styles every decade. Just in the last 25 years we had Tyson, Whitaker, Roy Jones Jr., Floyd, Rigondeaux and Lomachenko displaying some very unique styles of boxing and bringing new things to the table. If anything, boxing is the most diverse sport when it comes to different styles. You could mimic the boxing styles of certain fighters and boxing fans would recognize who it is you're imitating more often than not because boxing is so diverse and there's so many different things top fighters can do.
I don't care if they don't respect it but it's annoying that they're completely ignorant about boxing.
The reason why McGregor's approach doesn't work however is because in order to have an unconventional and unorthodox style (like those great boxers that I mentioned had/have) you have to know the boxing fundamentals first so you know what you're up against. You can't bend the rules if you don't know what the rules are in the first place. You can't be confident in your style until you test it in actual fights against top level opposition and that's what boxing has proved us a million times. That's why even Lomachenko lost his 2nd pro fight against Salido.
Also, it works the other way around as well, if Floyd "hasn't faced anyone like Conor" then for sure Conor hasn't faced anyone even remotely similar to Floyd. Who do you thing is going to adapt better in a boxing match? Obviously it's going to be someone who is more used to fighting all kinds of people in boxing than a novice. Floyd can come out with a different style for every round and Conor is not going to be used to anyone of those styles.
If anything, in regards to boxing the modern MMA fans have become just like the MMA detractors in the 90s who doubted in jiu jitsu and grappling and said things like "He's not going to go there to wrestle, he's going to go there as a karate fighter/boxer/kickboxer and KO him" or "this BJJ fighter has never seen someone like this Kung Fu specialist" or "this Wing Chun artist is going to use his death touch". MMA fans are now saying the same ridiculous things regarding boxing talking about Conor not going in there to box but to fight as an MMA fighter and how he has this supposed "death touch".Last edited by RedZmaja; 08-22-2017, 07:06 PM.Comment
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