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  • Originally posted by sicko View Post
    Great Reply! I disagree with the problem being In The Ring! I think the problem is the lack of Personality from Fighters and even Promoters. Remove Mayweather from the PPV Records and most of those PPV Records was Don King Promoting Events! I do think Boxing Misses that "PERSONALITY" of a Don King, not talking about the crooked BS but the Personality, the Ability to sell a fight to any and everybody! Trinidad, Chavez Jr didn't speak English but Don King promoted them a Draw without speaking any English because King had that BIG PERSONALITY! AMERICA LOVES PERSONALITY! You don't have it you won't be a star HERE I don't give a *** how many KO's you score and how exciting your fights are in the ring

    I will be honest, I think a lot of us Boxing fans are DELUSIONAL including myself! When you're on Forums like this you feel as if the Boxing Community is bigger than what it really is and I do think that is a MAJOR problem. Also Insulting and driving off Casual Fans who are new to the sport and making them feel less than (I'm Guilty Of This but only to Casuals who troll and post ****** stuff). I LOVE BOXING but the reason why I spend a lot of time on this forum because...well...nobody at my job, nobody in my family are Hardcore Boxing Fans just saying! Outside of Mayweather and Pacquiao, they have NO ***ING CLUE who these Boxers Are!

    That Is A Problem! The Sport Of Boxing is so far attached from the Casual Sports fan it is not even funny! It is actually kinda scary going into the future. Just talking for the Landscape of Boxing here in American not talking about the UK which seems to be Thriving just find with Eddie Hearn and AJ
    Don't forget video games and hip hop. Boxing had a large presence on both fronts when I was coming up. Fight Night sold well once upon a time. Also boxers had bigger roles in hip hop. De La Hoya, Roy Jones, Zab and so many others were in a lot of music videos and magazines, etc. Kids were more exposed to them.

    I think a good example of the influences are seen with Broner (who continues to bring ratings despite not being elite) and more recently, Gervonta Davis. His following keeps going up. Mostly due to Mayweather and hanging out with Drake.

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    • Originally posted by Butch.McRae View Post
      Don't forget video games and hip hop. Boxing had a large presence on both fronts when I was coming up. Fight Night sold well once upon a time. Also boxers had bigger roles in hip hop. De La Hoya, Roy Jones, Zab and so many others were in a lot of music videos and magazines, etc. Kids were more exposed to them.

      I think a good example of the influences are seen with Broner (who continues to bring ratings despite not being elite) and more recently, Gervonta Davis. His following keeps going up. Mostly due to Mayweather and hanging out with Drake.

      HELL YES! Forgot about that, those are Big Marketing Tools for a Fighter always has been. Mike Tyson was good friends with 2Pac when 2Pac was the man in Hip Hop and Mike Tyson had Mike Tyson punch up which is a Classic Video Game:


      Mayweather was close friend with 50 Cent when 50 Cent was on top of the Hip Hop World:


      Yes putting Tank Davis next to Drake and Drake working out with him is a GENIUS MOVE:


      So yes I do think having that Popular Rapper at your Pressers and walking you to the ring, those are GREAT Marketing Tools for a fighter!

      The video games are a great way to market to that younger demographic as far as Kids. It is entire Communities on youtube dedicated to NBA 2K Basketball Series. Image if you had a great boxing game with kids, teenagers and young Adults playing a boxing game

      Boxing is literally the only Pro Sport without a Yearly video game that releases. Yet people are sitting here wondering why Ratings are **** for boxing!
      Last edited by sicko; 08-22-2017, 09:46 PM.

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      • They had no promotion. I feel like boxing fans don't even know when a fight is happening until fight week. It would be nice to see a fight with a good co-feature to match it.

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        • I don't think it has much to do with the fighters and more to do with cable subscriptions declining. I bet a lot of people streamed the fight. I would be cool to see a card featured exclusively on YouTube to see how many live viewers it gets.

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          • The Numbers are so f.ucked it's tough to give a definite answer

            But Buds figt against Diaz did better #s and was available in some 50 million less homes then his fight with Indongo. That's not good no matter how you look at it.

            Bud hasn't crossed over and is a bixer that has a hometown base and is known amongst hard core fans. Which isn't bad but still these #s aren't good

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            • 1.1m peak for HBO would be very good for unification 4+belts but for ESPN it is decent at best.

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              • Numbers from ESPN: main event averaged 1.2 million on ESPN, 1.3 million avg for ESPN/ESPN Deportes combined.....

                http://espnmediazone.com/us/press-re...Im1RIk.twitter


                ESPN’s English and Spanish-language live telecast of the Saturday, August 19, “Unification” fight between Terence Crawford and Julius Indongo was seen by an average live audience of 1.3 million viewers across ESPN and ESPN Deportes combined during the main event, making it the second-most watched fight on cable* this year.
                Crawford vs Indongo main event averaged 1.2 million viewers on ESPN, making it the second-largest audience for boxing on cable in 2017 (behind ESPN’s Pacquiao/Horn main event which delivered 3.7 million viewers on ESPN).
                Last edited by Mitchell Kane; 08-25-2017, 11:23 PM.

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