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  • HanzGruber
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    #51
    Originally posted by megas30
    No. Not good fit. I think he should train with one of the Mayweathers, seeing how much he loves Floyd and i want to be like him. Being with the Mayweathers would probably give him more confidence, and he would also listen to what they say, because he will trust them more being how they groomed his idol.
    Sr has talked trash about mike Staford and broner. Plus broner doesn't need to be in the may boxing club environment. Teddy is a no nonsense guy which is what he needs

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    • WesternChamp
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      #52
      Originally posted by GriffTannen
      Sr has talked trash about mike Staford and broner. Plus broner doesn't need to be in the may boxing club environment. Teddy is a no nonsense guy which is what he needs
      broner is NOT going to listen to someone like teddy. teddy tries to play the strict role by yelling and broner is not gonna take that shiiet from him. broner needs a trainer like nacho attitude wise who is straight forward. you **** around then im outs. that was nacho's mindset for chavez jr for the canelo fight.

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        #53
        Originally posted by WesternChamp
        broner is NOT going to listen to someone like teddy. teddy tries to play the strict role by yelling and broner is not gonna take that shiiet from him. broner needs a trainer like nacho attitude wise who is straight forward. you **** around then im outs. that was nacho's mindset for chavez jr for the canelo fight.

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        • megas30
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          #54
          Originally posted by GriffTannen
          Sr has talked trash about mike Staford and broner. Plus broner doesn't need to be in the may boxing club environment. Teddy is a no nonsense guy which is what he needs
          At this point Teddy can't teach what Broner needs to learn. Broner needs confidence in the ring and someone he will listen too. The style of fight he wants to fight is the Mayweathers' speciality. Mayweathes basically talk **** about any boxers that is not under their tutelage. He used to do the same to Hatton, but then turn around and trained him, so you can't watch that. He will not fit with Teddy. Teddy needs guys who are novice, who are just learning the game. The Mayweathers will fine tune Broner's style of fighting and he develop confidence in using it.

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          • HarvardBlue
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            #55
            Yeah he's changing from strippers to **********s, candy to donuts, and a little bit of training to no training at all.

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            • WesternChamp
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              #56
              Originally posted by Kigali
              attitude wise nugga!! broner needs someone who doesnt need broner. nacho is the type of trainer who dont gives a **** about being in the spotlight or seeking for fame.

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                #57
                Originally posted by megas30
                At this point Teddy can't teach what Broner needs to learn. Broner needs confidence in the ring and someone he will listen too. The style of fight he wants to fight is the Mayweathers' speciality. Mayweathes basically talk **** about any boxers that is not under their tutelage. He used to do the same to Hatton, but then turn around and trained him, so you can't watch that. He will not fit with Teddy. Teddy needs guys who are novice, who are just learning the game. The Mayweathers will fine tune Broner's style of fighting and he develop confidence in using it.
                broner is barely letting his hands go right now, making him more defensive will be worst. he lost his confidence along the way, he needs to gain that back. turning him more into a defensive fighter will just be worst for him. he needs to learn how to set up his punches so that he can be more comfortable letting his hands go.

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                • megas30
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                  #58
                  Originally posted by WesternChamp
                  can we stop bringing up the mayweathers as if they're some great trainers. floyd is gifted in itself and would prolly be where he's at today with or without sr or roger in his corner. just going off what we see in these training videos, sr and roger seem hella lazy. if floyd wasnt where he's at today, nobody would even talk about sr and roger.
                  No, he would not. Everything he's learned he learned it from them. Learn to give credit where credit is due. They may not have been successful with other fighters, but they sure as hell is responsible for Floyd's success. Look at Roger and Senior days as fighters, and look at the way Jr fights. He combines both their style to make his. Of course, he talented, but talent is always 5% of the story. Many talented people are underachievers. Roger slowed down when he became ill, hence why Floyd brought back in Sr.

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                    #59
                    Originally posted by New England
                    dude is not that good!

                    i can't stand the excuses his fans come up with [why you'd even be a fan of this guy is suspect, but that's another conversation,] is f#cking infuriating. are you all his promotors? his dad who brushes his hair?

                    stop feeding into the idea that this guy is better than his performances indicate! he's not! maidana whooped that ass. shawn porter outworked him. garcia outboxed him. what's left for you guys to need to see? he can be beat up, outworked, and outboxed. where is this talent you talk about? where? i'm not even talking about intangibles at this stage [which, let's f#cking face it, the guy doesn't have and it's obvious.] i'm talking about talent. where's the gas tank of an elite athlete with elite o2 production? where's the finishing power to put maidana or porter away when they were both hurt? where was the polish to outbox those two limited fighters? and when he got a similar stylist in front of him, and a true technician in mikey garcia, where was the boxing skill to beat a smaller man at his own game?


                    rant over. i'm glad broner seems more dedicated, is getting rid of the leeches, is turning his life around, but stop it with this "if he only threw more punches nonsense." if he threw more punches he'd tire out and he knows it. he'd have eaten more clean punches from garcia. the guy just isn't t hat f#cking good.
                    People always seem to equate speed and pop with skill and talent.

                    People are like "But broner has the talent to be the best if he just focused right."

                    His speed and pop don't equate to skill and talent in the same way that Andre Berto's speed and power don't equate to skill and talent.

                    Broners game has always severely lacking in nuance. People seem to see people with hand speed standing in the same posture as Floyd and assume they are skilled.

                    Floyd has the ability to see what you are planning, what you are trying to set up, and position himself accordingly.

                    He also has the ability to see how you are trying to solve him, what openings you are trying to exploit and then pick and choose when to expose that opening, because he knows you will try and capitalize on it. But you just walked into a trap, because he did that to draw a punch out of you that he can counter.

                    Floyd's game is nuanced. Its skillful and he is talented.

                    Thats what skill and talent is.

                    Broner is not capable of thinking on that level inside the ring. He has always been in 1 of two modes, stand infront of you and throw set combinations, or he sits back and wait to try and counter you without laying traps.

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                    • megas30
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                      #60
                      Originally posted by WesternChamp
                      broner is barely letting his hands go right now, making him more defensive will be worst. he lost his confidence along the way, he needs to gain that back. turning him more into a defensive fighter will just be worst for him. he needs to learn how to set up his punches so that he can be more comfortable letting his hands go.
                      It is not defensive. Remember Floyd is only defensive because his hands became brittle. He was more of a combination puncher, but the beauty of what he did was that he was fluid with defence and offence. Broner would learn how to be fluid like a younger Floyd. It is how to use the style if effectively. How to counter effectively from the different angles. Remember those pad works Floyd and Roger used to do? Those pad works is about muscle memory, allowing you to counter punch instinctively. Broner is too slow to pull the trigger many times because his instinct is not there for the style he is trying to used.

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