Spence is going inactive again...

[asgarth]

Was just told by a Facebook friend that Top Rank has done three shows including tomorrow nights ESPN show since the PBC did their last fight. Geez, what happened to Al Haymon's "Freeeee Boxing" Listen to me more often, its called "out of money" or in this case "500 million of investors money is down the toilet" And Haymon is getting some fighters that are becoming very antsy, some are retaining attorneys, because there are no fights for them. Lamont Peterson, has fought twice since 2015, winning the WBA World Welterweight Title back in February. And he has no fight scheduled as of now, and no talk of one. And this is a typical example of Haymon fighters, not the exception. - Rick Glaser

How is Rick Glaser as a source perceived nowadays? I know when he was supposed to be the honest guy about PPV numbers, but then Ive read, that he doesnt have an actual source inside and instead is calculating his numbers via facebook polls and activity and some other nonsense.

Posters on this forums often use the numbers, when they fit their argument. For example using his lower numbers to make a point against boxers they dislike and then ignore glasers lower numbers for boxers they are in favour.

[-DSG-]

All the PBC guys are inactive it sucks!

[al-Xander]

How is Rick Glaser as a source perceived nowadays? I know when he was supposed to be the honest guy about PPV numbers, but then Ive read, that he doesnt have an actual source inside and instead is calculating his numbers via facebook polls and activity and some other nonsense.

Posters on this forums often use the numbers, when they fit their argument. For example using his lower numbers to make a point against boxers they dislike and then ignore glasers lower numbers for boxers they are in favour.

Glaser is the last word in PPV numbers, and Haymon fans like you are okay with it. But here you're saying Glaser has no credibility. Okay. No problem.

[asgarth]

Glaser is the last word in PPV numbers, and Haymon fans like you are okay with it. But here you're saying Glaser has no credibility. Okay. No problem.

how are you coming to the conclusion that I am a haymon fan lol.

[al-Xander]

how are you coming to the conclusion that I am a haymon fan lol.

So what are you arguing about? Why not just state what you think is right or true? If you don't know anything why even complain? Do you find Glaser's PPV numbers accurate? Yes or No?

[Beercules]

I would like to thank Al Hymie doe.

[asgarth]

So what are you arguing about? Why not just state what you think is right or true? If you don't know anything why even complain? Do you find Glaser's PPV numbers accurate? Yes or No?

I even gave reasons for why his numbers are nonsense. So i implied his numbers are not true.

And I also think PBC is not able to sustain their business model for much longer, but using Rick Glaser as an argument, regardless if his information are working for my argument or not, is not valid, because he has proofed to fabricate his numbers.

Then I criticized other posters for using his numbers when they fit their agenda and use other numbers if it is not the case.

I dont see how I was speaking in favour of haymon

[IMDAZED]

I love this time of year. When everyone ramps up the PBC is dead talk.

[al-Xander]

I even gave reasons for why his numbers are nonsense. So i implied his numbers are not true.

And I also think PBC is not able to sustain their business model for much longer, but using Rick Glaser as an argument, regardless if his information are working for my argument or not, is not valid, because he has proofed to fabricate his numbers.

Then I criticized other posters for using his numbers when they fit their agenda and use other numbers if it is not the case.

I dont see how I was speaking in favour of haymon

I see. So it's the messenger not the message. Anything you can rebut about the content of the message like Haymon fighters' inactivity? The reasons for it, etc? Why is Spence taking too long to announce his next fight, for example?

[asgarth]

I see. So it's the messenger not the message. Anything you can rebut about the content of the message like Haymon fighters' inactivity? The reasons for it, etc? Why is Spence taking too long to announce his next fight, for example?

Yeah, his message could be right for all I know in this case, but I just dont like people using Glaser as a source.

On topic, from what I can conclude with everything that is written about the PBC, it should be a combination of

1) low ratings (caused by horrible matchmaking in the beginning, but they actually brought us some decent matchups this year to be fair, even though most are on showtime, which isnt what PBC was about initially)

2) No money: low ratings lead to restricted/no access to investor money. Haymon is not able to overpay his fighters anymore. Cant put on good matches on free tv, because he already paid his fighters a fortune to fight garbage opposition.
The last free big channel fight was headlined by Guerrero Vs Figuoeroa, because he cant afford his big names on freetv anymore. We also read about many fighters earning less facing good opposition nowadays than they did, when they faced garbage opponents, which also points to pbcs money problem.

3) Limited Airdates: Low ratings also caused the Channels to stop their working relationships with PBC. He doesnt have enough airdates to satisfy his whole stable anymore, but I dont know why he doesnt give Spence the ones he still has, because Spence is one the best perfomer ratings-wise.
If I remember correctly, there only have been 2 fox broadcasts and 1 spike broadcast on freetv in 2017. Everything else has been on smaller channels like FS1 and Bounce.


4) Risk/Reward:
Thurman is the perceived easier and more rewarding champion to fight, because he doesnt look that devastating anymore (due to his stepup in competition), is more established and holds two belts.
I think most dudes want to be paid a substantial amount of money to face Spence Jr, which PBC doesnt possess anymore.
No one really calls out Spence Jr. The path to decent money (and a belt) is also easier by fighting Horn.