Comments Thread For: Luis Ortiz Laughs at Joshua: Where is Your Pride To Fight The Best?

[RussB23]

Wilder knocks him out tbh

lol how? The guy barely got past gerald washington. Joshua hits just as hard as wilder and is just a much better and skilled fighter. Wilder has no skill at all hes just big and swings wild windmills fighting bums.
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****kin lol @ wilder, dudes terrible

[1hourRun]

None of Joshua's fans have 'come at you' because everyone knows that your rhetoric is simply pro-USA, anti-EU and based entirely on your bias rather than any kind of objective conclusion that is worth discussing... but i'll humour you this time.

Both you and Luis Ortiz are happily ignoring the rest of Joshua's statement that that excerpt is from; Joshua is willing to fight Ortiz and will happily fight him once his fight with Pulev (the fight that the IBF mandated long, long ago) is over. That one simple statement shows that Ortiz statement is baseless as Joshua has said he will fight everyone.

Joshua saying if he has to get stripped he will isn't him saying he wants to be stripped; him and his team will do everything they can to keep hold of the belts so that statement is more for the sanctioning bodies as a warning that they will not be pushed around too much by the orgs and will just drop a belt if they really have to.

Beyond that Joshua (and Hearn for that matter) have both said that Wilder is also on their agenda once their mandatories are out of the way so again no semblance of ducking there. You can claim that because Joshua isn't fighting Wilder now then he's ducking him all you want but that is baseless when both Joshua and Wilder have talked extensively about wanting to be the unified world heavyweight champion. Why would either of them fight now for potentially 0 titles when they can fight for 3 titles in 8/10 months? The answer to that question is they wouldn't, and it's flat out ******ed to expect that they would.

I don't doubt you'll cherry pick one tiny part of my above rebuttal in order to attempt to ignore everything else listed here because in reality you know that what i've put above is based entirely in logic and that doesn't fly with your clear and evident agenda; thus this is the one and only response you'll get from me as i've got much better things to do than waste my time getting into a long winded 'debate' with you.

You dont what I'm talking about it was directed at a handful of Joshuas fans talking about that A.J cant fight Deontay next because he has 'Mandatories' but this is the second opponent he is willing to drop belts for. Yes he will fight old Ortiz and milk the real threat ( Deontay Wilder ) for as long as possible, and dont be surprised that he puts it off even longer if he can unify with the winner of Parker-Fury.

[Shadoww702]

Ortiz looks older than Klitschko.

Ortiz missed a trick when briefly signed with Hearn. He looked plodding, one paced and disinterested even against Allen who really just marched forward with his hands up in that contest. He did not look like the boogeyman of the division. He should have lit an inexperienced tough man like Allen up.

His management team do seem to keep his name out there beautifully though. And will get there time in the sun with Joshua by which point if Ortiz's performances don't improve not many, especially the actual fans of Joshua who will put money in his pocket) will want to see it over a Wilder, Parker/Fury,Fury, or even Whyte contest. Parker has even moved his operation to the UK just to fight Joshua.

From what I've seen, Jarrell Miller is more of a problem for Josh style wise. He looks untidy but with that mass and that work rate he could outlast Joshua.

It would be better for the division of Wilder was a bigger star or even Miller. These guys would all sit on the shelf for a shot at AJ. If AJ lost they would have to jockey for position again.

It is a good division if good fighters fight each other but I understand why they are all chasing the big money. From a fans perspective it can't be that Whyte is in a showcase fight this weekend.

Ring wise he's much younger. He turned pro in 2010 and has only fought 27 times.

Wlad turned pro in 1996 and has fought 69 times...

[Sparked_26]

Ring wise he's much younger. He turned pro in 2010 and has only fought 27 times.

Wlad turned pro in 1996 and has fought 69 times...

I guess. He really proves the maxim you are only as good as your last performance though.

There are folks on here who see him as THE dangerous fighter of the division.

And there are others like myself who have no idea what the fuss is about. And unfortunately for Ortiz it is British boxing fans never mind casuals who feel that way. They might have to get that mandatory shot absolutely nailed down like the Sauerlands and Pulev did.

Surely, it would be better for everyone if he just laid someone to waste in the mean time? I get why people wait on title shots but from a boxing fans perspective we know it kills the impetus from the fight especially coming off two mediocre performances. Although Eddie did him no favours sticking Scott in there with him.

[PsychoPat]

probably ain't good enough to be honest

True I think daniel dubois will fight and ko him within 5 years as well as a couple others with a shot of beating him by knockout wlad him him out of there several times but couldnt finish the job

[Shadoww702]

I guess. He really proves the maxim you are only as good as your last performance though.

There are folks on here who see him as THE dangerous fighter of the division.

And there are others like myself who have no idea what the fuss is about. And unfortunately for Ortiz it is British boxing fans never mind casuals who feel that way. They might have to get that mandatory shot absolutely nailed down like the Sauerlands and Pulev did.

Surely, it would be better for everyone if he just laid someone to waste in the mean time? I get why people wait on title shots but from a boxing fans perspective we know it kills the impetus from the fight especially coming off two mediocre performances. Although Eddie did him no favours sticking Scott in there with him.

Most boxing fans have a lot of respect for Cuban Boxers and I've yet to see any be an easy out. That being said he's like most when it comes to business and is a complete MORON!!! ODH twice tried putting him on Canelo PPV undercard for well needed exposure and twice d idnt do it. Even when he was popped they stayed loyal to him. And then wouldn't honor a purse bid.