Comments Thread For: Luis Ortiz Laughs at Joshua: Where is Your Pride To Fight The Best?

[Digital Mouth]

Luis Ortiz couldn't even put Dave Allen away what the hell is he gonna do against Joshua? He gets knocked out in the 6th round.

[Sparked_26]

??? He beat a 100 year old dude??

This would be a 50/50 fight IMO.

Ortiz looks older than Klitschko.

Ortiz missed a trick when briefly signed with Hearn. He looked plodding, one paced and disinterested even against Allen who really just marched forward with his hands up in that contest. He did not look like the boogeyman of the division. He should have lit an inexperienced tough man like Allen up.

His management team do seem to keep his name out there beautifully though. And will get there time in the sun with Joshua by which point if Ortiz's performances don't improve not many, especially the actual fans of Joshua who will put money in his pocket) will want to see it over a Wilder, Parker/Fury,Fury, or even Whyte contest. Parker has even moved his operation to the UK just to fight Joshua.

From what I've seen, Jarrell Miller is more of a problem for Josh style wise. He looks untidy but with that mass and that work rate he could outlast Joshua.

It would be better for the division of Wilder was a bigger star or even Miller. These guys would all sit on the shelf for a shot at AJ. If AJ lost they would have to jockey for position again.

It is a good division if good fighters fight each other but I understand why they are all chasing the big money. From a fans perspective it can't be that Whyte is in a showcase fight this weekend.

[Floyd is TBE]

Joshua probably brutalizes everyone in the division to be honest.

Wilder knocks him out tbh

[juggernaut666]

Luis ortiz isnt a spring chicken either. Wlad at 40 was better than luis ortiz now. Wlads still a beast in top shape didnt think he would retire.

Klitchko would have leveled Wilder had he persued him instead of Joshua and not retire and everyone knows that .

Getting Wilder in the actual ring would have been another story .

[Raggamuffin]

Joshua is a true ***** and Ortiz knows it. The boxing world sees through this fraud.

[damit305]

Ortiz could potentially beat him. Does Hearn want to risk it?

[Deus]

"I had to laugh buddy because after reading what you said it shows a lot about you and your pride to fight the best. In your own words you say you will get stripped of the WBA belt if you don't fight me, if the WBA enforces their rule - and those are your words," Ortiz told BoxingScene.com

Luis Ortiz is only validating the argument I have set before Joshua's fans. This is the third article this week and none of them have come at me after these quotes have been published ; just like A.J is ducking Deontay Wilder the UK fanboys stay away from me in these boards -- there you have it even a dunce like 'King-Dung' Ortiz has figured it out : Anthony Joshua is willing to drop belts if it suits him even if it means ducking a mandatory -- but wait I thought his fans said he cant fight Deontay because he has 'Mandatories'...I'm confused.

None of Joshua's fans have 'come at you' because everyone knows that your rhetoric is simply pro-USA, anti-EU and based entirely on your bias rather than any kind of objective conclusion that is worth discussing... but i'll humour you this time.

Both you and Luis Ortiz are happily ignoring the rest of Joshua's statement that that excerpt is from; Joshua is willing to fight Ortiz and will happily fight him once his fight with Pulev (the fight that the IBF mandated long, long ago) is over. That one simple statement shows that Ortiz statement is baseless as Joshua has said he will fight everyone.

Joshua saying if he has to get stripped he will isn't him saying he wants to be stripped; him and his team will do everything they can to keep hold of the belts so that statement is more for the sanctioning bodies as a warning that they will not be pushed around too much by the orgs and will just drop a belt if they really have to.

Beyond that Joshua (and Hearn for that matter) have both said that Wilder is also on their agenda once their mandatories are out of the way so again no semblance of ducking there. You can claim that because Joshua isn't fighting Wilder now then he's ducking him all you want but that is baseless when both Joshua and Wilder have talked extensively about wanting to be the unified world heavyweight champion. Why would either of them fight now for potentially 0 titles when they can fight for 3 titles in 8/10 months? The answer to that question is they wouldn't, and it's flat out ******ed to expect that they would.

I don't doubt you'll cherry pick one tiny part of my above rebuttal in order to attempt to ignore everything else listed here because in reality you know that what i've put above is based entirely in logic and that doesn't fly with your clear and evident agenda; thus this is the one and only response you'll get from me as i've got much better things to do than waste my time getting into a long winded 'debate' with you.

[JayCho]

This is coming from a guy whose last two fights were against Dave Allen and Malik Scott and he was poor in both 😂

[Bronx2245]

Hopefully AJ is stripped by the WBA, and the WBC let's Wilder swerve Stiverne, and he fights Ortiz! If we can't get Wilder vs. Ortiz, then I hope the WBA forces Ortiz vs. Miller for the WBA title! I'd be more interested in watching Kong Kong Ortiz vs. Big Baby Miller than either Wilder vs. Stiverne, or Joshua vs. Pulev!

[Sparked_26]

Hopefully AJ is stripped by the WBA, and the WBC let's Wilder swerve Stiverne, and he fights Ortiz! If we can't get Wilder vs. Ortiz, then I hope the WBA forces Ortiz vs. Miller for the WBA title! I'd be more interested in watching Kong Kong Ortiz vs. Big Baby Miller than either Wilder vs. Stiverne, or Joshua vs. Pulev!

I'm interested in Miller too - I was impressed with his sheer physicality, toughness, and gas tank in his fight against Washington. I hope he fights some of our heavyweights I think he beats them, and I will reserve judgement on his further fights regarding whether he could beat Joshua. But stylistically he looks a nightmare for anyone .

What heavyweight is going to enjoy fighting an enormous pressure fighter with gas tank like he appears to have? The answer is none. Joshua would have to punch holes in that guy.

That said, I can't buy into the excitement for Ortiz. I've not seen that Jennings win. Is that why people are so high on him?

Most of us Brits have seen Ortiz look dead average twice, but not only that and I know its only aesthetics but that chap looks about 50 years old. From what I've seen I'd legit throw Dereck Chisora in there with him never mind Joshua.