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  • icha
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    #51
    Originally posted by turnedup
    LMFAO really, put up a poll on this website or any boxing site and remove yourself from the equation..you will be shocked at the results. What does Canelo do better than Jacobs? Footwork? Nope. Power? Nope. Speed? Nope. Size? Nope. Counter punching? Maybe. So Canelo is a better fighter based on a maybe?
    feel free to check any P4P list anywhere and comeback to us...
    jacobs is just bigger than canelo but not better...
    dont take my word, check the lists made by the most reputable boxing analysts...

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    • stealthradon
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      #52
      Originally posted by kushking
      To answer your question canelo has been challenging himself vs the absolute best consistently with much more frequency than Jacobs/Charlos/lara etc. & Whatever other hypejobs you wanna claim would"beat the dog shît" outta him.hes done that since 20 yrs old & these clowns have cherrypicked til older age vs straight bums,you claim Canelo cant name an opponent to have demonstrated his skills against like Jacobs,yet Jacobs only has 1 good robbery vs ggg thats it,& he was dropped in that fight too,Canelo since young age destroyed & ko'd fighters who have themselves destroyed or ko'd gggs best wins way before him &/or way better than him.

      Angulo kod alcine/rosado in 1 rd apiece way before ggg dragged up rosado to mw & only kod him in 7,& alcine destroyed lemieux way before ggg but was obliterated in 1 rd by Angulo,Rubio was destroyed by Chavez Jr 4 yrs before ggg did, Canelo has fought the exact most difficult opponents & styles since age 22, in mayweather/ trout/Lara 3 exact ******nite styles,undefeated,trout is still jermalls best only good win &
      he was booed afterwards because trout won imo (Jermalls the only decent charlo not yet whooped by a complete nohoper). Canelos fighting ggg next & you still are looking forward to hating by already saying hes gonna duck so & so, instead of asking why dont Jacobs/Charlo fight ANYONE,or each other instead of begging 4 a payday? Jermall will sit on his gifted #1 contender instead of challenging himself vs ANY mw,but he knows hes average so hell sit on it pîssing & moaning.
      Macklin ko'ed Alcine in round 1. Angulo lost to Cintron.
      Alcine did not destroy Lemieux.
      "When the fight started, Lemieux came out hard and fast as expected, bombing away with both hands looking to put an end to the fight quickly. Alcine had prepared for that though,DBE keeping a high guard to block many of the shots and staying on his toes moving effortlessly around the ring. Alcine, now 35 years old, was looking more like the fighter who, in 2007, went into the backyard of undefeated World Boxing Association (WBA) Light Middleweight Champion Travis Simms, in Bridgeport, Connecticut, to take Simms’ title in dominant fashion via 12-round unanimous decision.

      By the middle rounds, it was clear that Lemieux was tiring and Alcine, 13 years his senior, was the fresher of the two, boxing beautifully and even staggering the heavy-handed Lemieux on a few occasions.

      Heading into the championship rounds, the fight was close, but Alcine’s experience proved to be the difference, as he was able to sweep the last four rounds on the scorecards to win a majority decision with two tallies of 116-112 in his favor and the third judge calling the bout even at 114-114."

      Who has Trout beat? Name one besides Cotto. Go on.

      If Canelo has fought the most difficult there is name 3 that was less than 35 when he fought them, and were in the same weightclass as him. They should also have less than 15 months of lay-off.

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      • Verus
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        #53
        Originally posted by turnedup
        Oscar already has his built in excuse to not give Danny the fight and that's his issues Haymon.
        True, but if Jacob's public profile improves it could be made into a big money fight. That, of course, assumes Oscar will do business with Haymon, and if there is enough money involved Oscar will. All of this might be a moot point though because Canelo probably will not get by GGG.

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        • turnedup
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          #54
          Originally posted by Verus
          True, but if Jacob's public profile improves it could be made into a big money fight. That, of course, assumes Oscar will do business with Haymon, and if there is enough money involved Oscar will. All of this might be a moot point though because Canelo probably will not get by GGG.
          Oscar is still butthurt he let Richard handle the paperwork on his fighters and got played. I don't see Oscar working with Haymon on a mega fight unless he's down to his last option.

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          • turnedup
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            #55
            Originally posted by icha
            feel free to check any P4P list anywhere and comeback to us...
            jacobs is just bigger than canelo but not better...
            dont take my word, check the lists made by the most reputable boxing analysts...
            You killed this back and forth by bringing up P4P lists...that's an objectionable list created by people with biases. I say stack Canelo's resume and name one fighter on his resume that even goes the distance with Jacobs. JUST GIVE ME ONE NAME! One. Or you can continue to go the popularity route if you'd like and mention more p4p lists.

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              #56
              Originally posted by kushking
              To answer your question canelo has been challenging himself vs the absolute best consistently with much more frequency than Jacobs/Charlos/lara etc. & Whatever other hypejobs you wanna claim would"beat the dog shît" outta him.hes done that since 20 yrs old & these clowns have cherrypicked til older age vs straight bums,you claim Canelo cant name an opponent to have demonstrated his skills against like Jacobs,yet Jacobs only has 1 good robbery vs ggg thats it,& he was dropped in that fight too,Canelo since young age destroyed & ko'd fighters who have themselves destroyed or ko'd gggs best wins way before him &/or way better than him.

              Angulo kod alcine/rosado in 1 rd apiece way before ggg dragged up rosado to mw & only kod him in 7,& alcine destroyed lemieux way before ggg but was obliterated in 1 rd by Angulo,Rubio was destroyed by Chavez Jr 4 yrs before ggg did, Canelo has fought the exact most difficult opponents & styles since age 22, in mayweather/ trout/Lara 3 exact ******nite styles,undefeated,trout is still jermalls best only good win &
              he was booed afterwards because trout won imo (Jermalls the only decent charlo not yet whooped by a complete nohoper). Canelos fighting ggg next & you still are looking forward to hating by already saying hes gonna duck so & so, instead of asking why dont Jacobs/Charlo fight ANYONE,or each other instead of begging 4 a payday? Jermall will sit on his gifted #1 contender instead of challenging himself vs ANY mw,but he knows hes average so hell sit on it pîssing & moaning.
              How did I know Golovkin would be mentioned the moment I saw you quoting me...shocker there bro. This is Jacobs vs Canelo, and like i've asked here..NAME ONE FIGHTER ON CANELO'S RESUME THAT BEATS JACOB. ONE! To address your pointless side tracking i'm putting money on Golovkin in this fight, hell if you go back far enough you'll find me supporting Canelo during the Lara lead up, and not just that fight. But ya'll want to throw the word hate up here when your azzholes get irritated and jump to conclusions, why the fk would I hate Canelo. Please explain that ******ity to me? Do I fight for a living, am I trying to be famous, do I sit around worrying about someone else's pockets? No, correct. You can't find one single thread of me going off the scales about the man but i'm hating? Y'all toss that word around like you don't understand the meaning of what hate is. I think Jacobs is a better fighter, the second best MW in the world. Canelo has done nothing in his entire career to make me think he beats Jacobs but instead of saying "Well you are wrong and here's how" you type up an essay full of Golovkin bashing, so who is the hater here? Walk up to a mirror and look closely bro.

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              • turnedup
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                #57
                Originally posted by kushking
                Thats the thing your arguments are all more baseless.You argue Jacobs is more skilled faster etc. But this is boxing where the only thing that counts toward proving those things is who you've consistently done it against & their skill levels along with other variables like age.

                Jacobs had accomplished jack shît prior to giving golovkin all he can handle. Before that fight he was known as a glassjaw with only 1 half decent win on his resume who was almost put to sleep by mora. I was one of the few anywhere who not only gave Jacobs a chance at winning but I told everyone that ggg is overrated & if he destroyed Jacobs like the rest on his resume hes the real deal as Jacobs was a decent b level win who would finally show us gggs true level.

                But you trying to claim not only Jacobs is a all around better fighter() not to mention that hes supposedly more proven & that canelos a giant cherrypicker with weak opponents etc. just demonstrates how much of a hypocrit canelo hater u are whos the same one who hypocritically worships a bunch of fighters who are older & have a 20x weaker resume than him like charlo sisters & basically anyone whos black.

                You use these lame claims like he will duck so & so. When those so & sos are career ultra cherrypickers who wont fight each other like charlos/lara etc. who wont fight any top opponent until they hit the lottery vs ggg/canelo, charlo just beat(& claimed it was a legit ko win deserving of respect) a 1 legged gimp,who Sulaiman had waiting in retirement for 2 yrs as #1 until haymon bribed him to give Charlo a completely undeserved title shot vs a retired 1 legged Pinocchio pedo doll Heiland.
                Jacobs was known as a glass jawed fighter? Only to casual mofo's who didn't bother looking at the man's ability and the fact his career got sidetracked. All I see from you is a slew of bull**** and I respect your time on here enough to tell you straight up that you are on here looking like a petulant child trying to defend a fighter you like with nothing but pure bullshh. Go back and read your two replies to me, and tell me that's not some b*tch azz shhh. Also don't put words in my mouth cuz i didn't say he's better accomplished, I did point out his skillset are better than Canelo's but you want to turn around and rescript that to suit your ****** azz agenda. I'll ask you one last time..NAME ONE FIGHTER ON CANELO'S RESUME THAT BEATS JACOBS. ONE! Don't bother replying with more ****** shh because on everything I love i'll block the shhh out of you respect on other topics and other fighters or not. That's some b*tch shh some come back like a man and stay on topic or take that Jason Shaw like bullshh and engage someone else.

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                • turnedup
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                  #58
                  Originally posted by Bjl12
                  Umm what? Canelo is the far better boxer than Jacobs. And that's not even questionable.

                  Sorry your "guy" had a very tough time with him, but styles make fights. Canelo is much more diverse and talented than Jacobs and he is simply better in most areas too
                  My guy? LMFAO i'm probably one of like 5 people here who spent the entire time of the lead up to Golovkin vs Jacobs warning people that he was a live dog but now it's because my guy had a tough time? Seriously I wish they paid y'all money for all these assumptions, it's downright hilarious. Canelo is the better boxer, go ahead and tell me how...what does Canelo do better than Jacobs because i'm curious as fk and please leave the typical "trump card" of name dropping Golovkin into every reply that's so common when mofo's can't make an argument.

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                    #59
                    Originally posted by Robi13
                    Lara and cotto if weight wouldn't be a factor
                    LMFAO "If weight wasn't a factor" then why bother mentioning them? Cotto had no issue fighting Martinez but now weight is a factor? amazing and mind you i rocked with Cotto until he fought a one legged Martinez.
                    Last edited by turnedup; 08-19-2017, 12:01 AM.

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                      #60
                      Originally posted by Sanchez
                      Canelo Best Counter-Puncher, Not Biggest Puncher for GGG



                      Canelo has great timing, and Golovkin is slooooow.....

                      the red kid is gonna lite that boy up like a Christmas tree


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