Why didn't Hagler challenge himself

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  • TonyGe
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    #221
    Originally posted by Tom Cruise
    **** Tiger was the champ at MW, moved up to LHW and became the champ there too.

    Maybe Greb? Mickey Walker (his weight jumping was hard to follow)?

    Gonna be a short list though. All the old timey weight jumps were hard.

    If you are talking champs who just moved up without winning the LHW title then the list would be longer.
    Yes it's a very short list but the OP can't seem to grasp this. Not only was Hagler Middleweight champ he was a unified champion. The incentive to move up wasn't there. Robert Duran who is one of my favorite fighters moved up for the money and because of weight issues. Gotta compare apples to apples.

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    • Raggamuffin
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      #222
      Originally posted by Mr.Fantastic
      I bet when Wilder wins tonight you're going to be screaming "Black Power" with your fist in the air. Bet!!

      Yes, he's facing another black guy tonight but you know who's the relevant one.
      Insecure ass, lmao.

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        #223
        Originally posted by Raggamuffin
        Insecure ass, lmao.
        I'm pretty confident. You really don't know me lol.


        It's people like you that are insecure since you really don't have anything relevant to come back with, people like you play the "you're a racist/bigot" card.

        Wilder won so cong**** to him so go suck him off while hating on Golovkin.

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          #224
          Originally posted by Mr.Fantastic
          I'm pretty confident. You really don't know me lol.


          It's people like you that are insecure since you really don't have anything relevant to come back with, people like you play the "you're a racist/bigot" card.

          Wilder won so cong**** to him so go suck him off while hating on Golovkin.
          Gayest post of the year, lmao. Go get an education moron.

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            #225
            Originally posted by Raggamuffin
            Gayest post of the year, lmao. Go get an education moron.
            Better to be in a classroom than a ***/Antifa march.

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              #226
              Originally posted by Tom Cruise
              How can any MWs have proved themselves to be great when Hagler was that dominant?
              You can still have fighters deemed, by their contemporaries, to be great. No one thinks of Minter, Antuo and whoever else as great. Now some were still very good fighters and this isnt an argument about Haglers place at middleweight.

              You would have to see the full discussion between me and john to understand why this arose.

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                #227
                Originally posted by john l
                We just gonna have to agree to disagree I have already pointed out why Haggler is CLEAR ATG but what ever.
                I never said he wasnt an ATG, quite the opposite actually lol

                The discussion is about why Hagler didnt fight at LHW like most great MW champs before.

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                  #228
                  Originally posted by TonyGe
                  Ok give me the names of all the Unified Middleweight Champions that moved up. Not guys that once held a title.
                  Robinson
                  Hopkins
                  Fitzsimmons
                  Flowers
                  Tiger
                  could mention Leonard himself although he never fought at the full lhw limit

                  etc etc

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                  • nacho daddy
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                    #229
                    Originally posted by buddyr
                    ok thanks. cuz I could have swore he had fights at 47 and 54. I guess I was wrong. Thanks again for the correction
                    so what does that mean?? anyway you look at it Duran fought 25 lbs over his division and Hagler did not fight one ounce over his division

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                    • TonyGe
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                      #230
                      Originally posted by soul_survivor
                      Robinson
                      Hopkins
                      Fitzsimmons
                      Flowers
                      Tiger
                      could mention Leonard himself although he never fought at the full lhw limit

                      etc etc
                      You may want to recheck your list. I think only Fitzimmons was undisputed. In any event that's a very short list you came up withafter you said...
                      The discussion is about why Hagler didnt fight at LHW like most great MW champs before.
                      Last edited by TonyGe; 11-05-2017, 12:06 PM.

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