Is PED use in boxing universally accepted - just don't talk about it?

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  • IcantReadYEAHHH
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    #1

    Is PED use in boxing universally accepted - just don't talk about it?

    Use of IVs 750 ml and only testing during camps? Is this acceptable?
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    I think it is in all sports. None of these top guys are 100% clean.

    "Well they haven't failed a test!" That's the goal. To NOT fail a test.

    We should regulate PED usuage. Doping is the norm now.

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    • IcantReadYEAHHH
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      UFC does random testing all year around; they also banned IVs. A lot of top fighters have been suspended or completely fell off. It seems boxing doesn't have the same standards though?

      Are they making any progress with this? Mcgregor is the most tested fighter on the ufc roster and has been subject to year round random testing for like the last two years.

      So we know mcgregor is clean. Floyd however, the dude is 40 years old and uses an IV? What is the IV for?

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      • KillaCamNZ
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        #4
        Originally posted by IcantReadYEAHHH
        UFC does random testing all year around; they also banned IVs. A lot of top fighters have been suspended or completely fell off. It seems boxing doesn't have the same standards though?

        Are they making any progress with this? Mcgregor is the most tested fighter on the ufc roster and has been subject to year round random testing for like the last two years.

        So we know mcgregor is clean. Floyd however, the dude is 40 years old and uses an IV? What is the IV for?
        Have you got some year-to-date 2017 numbers available? Conor McGregor wasn't even close to being the most tested fighter in the full 2016 calendar year - that was Anderson Silva.

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        • tokon
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          #5
          Originally posted by IcantReadYEAHHH
          UFC does random testing all year around; they also banned IVs. A lot of top fighters have been suspended or completely fell off. It seems boxing doesn't have the same standards though?

          Are they making any progress with this? Mcgregor is the most tested fighter on the ufc roster and has been subject to year round random testing for like the last two years.

          So we know mcgregor is clean. Floyd however, the dude is 40 years old and uses an IV? What is the IV for?
          Weren't the UFC basically forced into that random testing all year round thing because of the bad publicity of so many mma fighters failing state athletic tests?

          Who tests for the UFC? Is it VADA or some other independent "outside" agency? Or do they administer their own tests and results are UFC sight-only?

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          • Robbie Barrett
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            #6
            Originally posted by tokon
            Weren't the UFC basically forced into that random testing all year round thing because of the bad publicity of so many mma fighters failing state athletic tests?

            Who tests for the UFC? Is it VADA or some other independent "outside" agency? Or do they administer their own tests and results are UFC sight-only?
            USADA tests UFC fighters, the same agency Mayweather has used since 2009.

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            • Mr. 29K
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              #7
              Your phuckin name. Lmfao. Green k

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              • Boxfan83
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                #8
                Originally posted by Robbie Barrett
                USADA tests UFC fighters, the same agency Mayweather has used since 2009.
                USADA is the easiest of to manipulate. That is why guys like Memo Heredia prefer USADA. They update their banned substance list and make it public info which a good chemist can easily manipulate. I am not accusing anyone, but someone with some know how could easily manipulate some sort of performance enhancer to get by the USADA test.

                How do I know this? I work scientist; Food Microbiologist & Chemist.

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                • Robbie Barrett
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                  #9
                  Originally posted by Boxfan83
                  USADA is the easiest of to manipulate. That is why guys like Memo Heredia prefer USADA. They update their banned substance list and make it public info which a good chemist can easily manipulate. I am not accusing anyone, but someone with some know how could easily manipulate some sort of performance enhancer to get by the USADA test.

                  How do I know this? I work scientist; Food Microbiologist & Chemist.
                  It's WADA that updates the list and VADA use the same list.

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                  • Boxfan83
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                    #10
                    Originally posted by Robbie Barrett
                    It's WADA that updates the list and VADA use the same list.
                    Wrong, USADA has their own list and it specifies WADA substances only. VADA has a list but:

                    Moreover, VADA has the
                    right, at any time, to modify, edit, and add any substance or method according to any new
                    laws, guidelines, VADA policies, or anti-doping ideals.

                    Thats why they hire cons like Conte to keep up with these backyard chemist that modify the drugs on you little "WADA" list.

                    hahhaha

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