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  • GaMo
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    #31
    Originally posted by Joe Beamish
    Sorry, were you going to name a great opponent in HIS prime that Floyd beat?

    I'm not talking about Floyd's prime. I'm looking for victories over other great fighters in their prime.

    Zip ziltch nada none.
    Diego Corrales 33-0
    Ricky Hatton 43-0
    Saul Alvarez 42-0

    Alvarez is looking like he might go on to be great. Hatton and Corrales probably both fell short however they were both very good and in their primes when Floyd knocked them out not just beat them he stopped them both in ten.

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    • Leonis
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      #32
      Originally posted by Joe Beamish
      I was only half-kidding. Given the racial nature of this board.

      But I suspect you've named not some, but ALL the "non-blacks" you can think of who might rate best all-time in a given weight class.

      NOBODY would argue for any non-blacks at HW.

      Duran and Chavez are totally arguable. There aren't many non-black options at those weights, but tons of black ones.

      Which is pretty good for 12% of the American population.

      I can't believe you put Greb as #1 MW.

      Monzon, arguably. But the other options at MW are all black, and there are lots and lots of them.
      I dont think that the 12% of the population means a lot, Italians were less than 1% and produced so many hofs.
      Boxing had been a sport of the ******s and black communities were the most populous.
      Up to the 50s most of the greats at heavyweight were white, Marciano Schmeling Tunney Dempsey..
      After Italians Irish ***s and other white communities left the ******s boxing became a competition between Afro-Americans and Hispanics who started participating in boxing around that time. Blacks naturally bigger than Hispanics dominated the heavier divisions.
      Last two decades whites are back in the game mainly Eastern Europeans and British. A lot of Asians as well in the lighter divisions,with Pacquiao probably making it to the top 10 of all time. Boxing has become a global sport.

      About the middleweights i think you got it wrong most of the very greats are white or non-black basically.
      Grebb Monzon LaMota Ketchel Walker.

      Lightweight seems pretty even to me but Duran stands out for no1.
      At Junior Welter if not Chavez you can make an argument for Pryor but you can make for Tszyu too. Whats your take on that?
      The most black division seems to be the light Heavyweight, hardly any white in the top 10 of all time
      The most white division is definitely the super middleweight with Ward being the only highly ranked black and he is not even black
      I dont see any race being superior in the sport of boxing like it happens with other sports like basketball sprinting jumping weightlifting swimming gymnastics etc..

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      • Leonis
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        #33
        Originally posted by lopetego
        Oh so he was like Floyd, then?
        No Ray Leonard was a browler compare to Floyd lol
        He wasn't running a lot, just against Hagler..

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        • NC Uppercut
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          #34
          Why does it have to be "black" boxers? Why can't it just be "boxers"?

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          • Banko Villas
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            #35
            Originally posted by Joe Beamish
            Best black boxers = best boxers, period.
            Which is the exact reason why I just say black boxers instead of best boxers. I don't want the thread to be filled with white boxers from 1940, lol, I want it to be about the actually best. Whites doesn't even crack the top 20, but some fools dare to mention them in GOAT lists.

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            • Banko Villas
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              #36
              Originally posted by Ray Corso
              "Sugar Ray Robinson never beat anyone good".............duh!

              This is all we need to know about you! "peeleft: another jackazz

              Ray
              Come on. Mention a guy he beat who wouldn't at best be a gatekeeper today. The thing is, you can't. SRR's legacy is about quantity, not quality.

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              • Ray Corso
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                #37
                Kid Gavilan! He beats any welter including Mayweather!

                You need to study the history of boxing not just boxrec champions.
                There are ATG's and HoF fighters all over Robinsons record from Welter to Middleweight.
                Just because you don't know them doesn't mean they don't exsist. Study on your own why should give you the answers when your not willing to study?

                Gavilan
                Basilio
                LaMotta
                Angott
                Servo
                Zivic
                Zanelli
                Wade
                Armstrong
                Villiamane
                Fusari
                Olson
                Basora
                Mimms
                Turpin
                Graziano
                Fullmer
                Pender
                Maxim
                Dupas
                Moyer
                Harrington


                Just to give you an example of your incompetence regarding boxing history!
                I know you never heard of a fighter named Ralph Dupas.
                Mr. Dupas fought from 1950 through 1966, he fought 135 times!
                He won 106 with only 19 ko's he lost 23 times only being stopped 7 times in 135 bouts with 6 draws! He was trained by Whitey Esneault and Angelo Dundee, he was from New Orleans and was inducted into the HoF in 2000.


                It takes time to learn anything. History comprehension takes researching and time and I doubt you have the aptitude for it!
                Stick to knowing lil" Floyd it doesn't take much to talk about him.

                Ray
                Last edited by Ray Corso; 08-11-2017, 01:41 PM.

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