Love him, hate him but Mayweather Has been Good for Boxing

[LittleLucy]

how was he good for boxing?

the masses don't enjoy his fights... they just been hoping that he gets beat for years...
if any casual watches his fights they don't come back for me... they fall asleep and say never again...
Plus he set the blueprint to act like a diva and choose when to fight certain fighters... that's just the truth...
i don't see why the hell he fought ortiz, guerrero, maidana, or berto...

exciting boxers are good for boxing...

mad props to floyd for making so many millions by mind f u ckin the masses for years though

[Gunpowdergreg]

how was he good for boxing?

the masses don't enjoy his fights... they just been hoping that he gets beat for years...
if any casual watches his fights they don't come back for me... they fall asleep and say never again...
Plus he set the blueprint to act like a diva and choose when to fight certain fighters... that's just the truth...
i don't see why the hell he fought ortiz, guerrero, maidana, or berto...

exciting boxers are good for boxing...

mad props to floyd for making so many millions by mind f u ckin the masses for years though

'ALL PRESS IS GOOD PRESS' in the vacuum that was boxing in the last decade, Mayweather vs whomever keep the lights on boxing. He did his share of damage but he and his fights attention more than out weigh the damage.

[JAB5239]

I can't stand Mayweather, but there is no doubt he has been good for the sport. Love him or hate him, people tune in to see Floyd fight!

[HandsofIron]

Good? Hell no! Mayweather's been a total disservice for boxing. He made his money but it came at boxing's expense and integrity. He made the sport look soft and sissy with all his running, hugging and safety first stance.

The disrespectful May-McBurger sh itshow isn't even worth streaming.

[Floyd is TBE]

Those dudes live a fantasy world where more people paying attention to boxing is bad. How else do you convince yourself that one of the only guys getting people to pay attention to boxing has been bad for the sport?

Apparently Ward and Kov giving the fans "what they want" while losing money and selling under 100k ppv's is "good for the sport".

[Scipio2009]

First off, I am not a Mayweather fan. I am a boxing fan but the most recent dumping on Floyd is out of line; OK, we boxing fans may have dumped on him at one time or another but fine, that’s what we do. He gets paid for attention and at one time or another we all have different favorites in different bouts.

Now that this mega-event with McGregor is going to takes place there is dumping by MMA fans and casual MMA/Boxing fans alike. Maybe that’s deserving of him for taking part in this event to begin with, but come on for $100 Million, like it or not but accept it, boxing at the highest level is all about one thing. Same is true for McGregor as to why, the money, more than he would ever make or deserve otherwise but for his self-promotion and for that he gets an A+.

Why do boxing fans want to see him tore down but to build up McGregor? He’s the greatest boxer of his generation, as was the “GOAT, Sugar Ray Robinson”, one and probably only one of the few things that 50%+ boxing fans can agree on is that Ray is the GOAT. So I use Ray as a comparison to Floyd not they are comparable but they can be compared.

Of course, Floyd doesn’t have as many fights 49 vs 198 but comparable or higher than competition for his era. Competition, there’s the big word, no he didn’t have Pender, Fullmer, Basillio, Olsen, Maxim, Graziani, Turpin, LaMotta, Gavilan, Bell, Armstrong, et al. but he did have Pacquiao, Maidana, Alvarez, Cotto, Ortiz, Mosley, Marquez, Hatton, DeLaHoya, Baldomir, Judah, Gatti, Castillo and Corrales. Not a bad bunch of names, either way both fought the best of their respective era.

He is also famous/infamous for something else he had in common with the GOAT, they didn’t get hit a lot. Both avoided punishment through skills. Ray was the foundation upon which all the “Sugars”, “The Greatest” and “Money Man” built their styles. Hitting without getting hit, that is what the “Sweet Science” is all about, right? I don’t like his style, it bores me but he wins and like it or not it’s copied because it’s effective and just like Sugar Ray Robinson kids can copy but no one can compare to the original. In 10, 20 years from now he will be a legendary.

Also, like it or not, Mayweather has been the driving influence in boxing during the recent decade(s) of drought. He and he alone has been the one to drive interest in boxing when no one else could, of course Pacquaio and now Alvarez but their influence is only relative to Mayweather. In a drought you may not like the rainmaker but you need the rain.

I don’t expect boxing purest of which I am one or racist of which I am not, to love him but serious boxing fans need to give him his credit. It’s a lose/lose for Mayweather vs McGregor. He wins, it’s he should have won he fought against an MMA champion but boxing amateur. I can hear it already,” if it had been in the MMA cage” then……

On this one, we true boxing fans should stick together and not let the boxing casuals and MMA fans denigrate one of our own. Like him, love him or hate him but please support the sport and support him against folks that want to degrade him for being a boxer in the sport of Boxing.

Yes, it’s about the money and Mayweather could care less about how we feel and yes, it’s not an event that’s worthy of breaking Marciano’s record but he is still one of our own; like it or not.

I think you're missing the point.

HBO and the old guard of boxing (Arum, Oscar, Main Events, etc) and their writers (Rafael, Kim, Fischer, etc) have all hitched their wagons to Alvarez-Golovkin being the only fight worth paying attention to, and the folks tied in with that are pushing the same message.

No mention of Golovkin-Jacobs warranting a rematch, no mention of the **** show that ended up being Alvarez-ChavezJr, no mention of the Billy Joe Saunders fight, etc.

The old guard has a fight that works for them, the old guard has been against Floyd since he bet on himself and won, and the narrative had carried on since Floyd fought on HIS show against Baldomir.

Hasn't changed in the past, won't change now, and likely won't change in the future (Floyd hasn't taken enough punishment to get the sympathy turn that Ali got once Parkinson's ravaged his body, and I'm fairly certain that Floyd won't go broke, eliminating the sympathy that would come for having to make appearances to simply keep the lights on).

Take it for what it is and move on

[sicko]

Mayweather has been good for MAYWEATHER! That being said, not his fault that more Superstars wasn't developed while him and Pacquiao had the WORLD watching boxing is the other Promoters Fault for not taking advantage of that ERA MORE!

[Scipio2009]

The problem for me is that so many young fighters now look at him and think the way to all that success and money is stay undefeated and take minimal risks, so they try to manage their own career in that way. The thing is though, Floyd never took an easy route early on. He wasn't really that selective until late on in his career, but that's also the Floyd that made a lot of money and that's what young fighters now see.

I don't blame Floyd for that though, he did what was best for his career as he should and fair play to him but i think it has influenced a new generation of boxers in a way that is detrimental to the sport, but it wasn't purposely done for that reason of influencing people, he was just looking out for his own career.

So yeah, i don't think his influence has been good for the sport, but i don't blame him for anything either. If people want to point the finger at Floyd for "damaging the sport", then people must also direct the blame in other directions too. The fans and boxing business allowed him to do it. Nobody was forced to buy his fights.

It's up to the new era to change things and up to the fans to force the industry to make the best fights if they want fans to buy it. Promoters and TV networks would be forced to make good fights if the fans stop paying for bull**** fights.

For every Adrien Broner who saw Floyd's career that way, there are a couple Errol Spence Jr's, Mikey Garcia's and Andre Ward's.

For all the flash of Floyd, he never half-assed the preparation for a single fight and he and his camp made sure that his business was properly handled to his benefit before committing to anything. Beyond that, once Floyd did commit, he worked all obligations without much issue (gloves in Maidana 1 aside).

Beyond boxing, personal character has more to do with how folks react; when it comes to the boxing business, though, I can't think of much better examples to follow than Floyd.

[Scipio2009]

how was he good for boxing?

the masses don't enjoy his fights... they just been hoping that he gets beat for years...
if any casual watches his fights they don't come back for me... they fall asleep and say never again...
Plus he set the blueprint to act like a diva and choose when to fight certain fighters... that's just the truth...
i don't see why the hell he fought ortiz, guerrero, maidana, or berto...

exciting boxers are good for boxing...

mad props to floyd for making so many millions by mind f u ckin the masses for years though

Exciting boxers are great for boxing; Floyd (and Haymon, tbh) simply helped open the eyes of everyone, exciting or not, that boxers don't always have to end up broke.

Make sure your business is handled properly, fight your heart out in the actual fight, and sock as much money away as you can in stuff that you can understand.

That's the model going forward. Not every boxer is going to end up rich like Floyd, but far more fighters will leave the sport with something tangible to hold onto, for them and their families, because of how Floyd handled his business.

[Tony Trick-Pony]

Floyd's always been a solid businessman. No doubt about it. And nine figure fights going down is always good for boxing and for MMA as well this time around.