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  • siablo14
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    #11
    Originally posted by Afi23
    I agree with alot of what you guys said. I think we "hardcore" fans often make the mistake of applying the traditional definition of a North American "star" (the one used for a pop star, nba athlete, etc) to the boxing "ecosystem". For example, for the boxing ecosystem, GGG is a star but by the traditional metrics used in America, I doubt he is. To me, regarding Crawford, the real question is: "Is Bud already a star despite his "poor" PPV sale so far"?

    The other issue for me is that boxing does a very poor job of developing its "potential" stars. For example, young, "good looking guys" (no ****) like the Charlo twins with actual above-average boxing skills should be on the path to becoming stars in the traditional sense of term.
    They don't seem to be articulate.

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      #12
      Originally posted by Afi23
      I agree with alot of what you guys said. I think we "hardcore" fans often make the mistake of applying the traditional definition of a North American "star" (the one used for a pop star, nba athlete, etc) to the boxing "ecosystem". For example, for the boxing ecosystem, GGG is a star but by the traditional metrics used in America, I doubt he is. To me, regarding Crawford, the real question is: "Is Bud already a star despite his "poor" PPV sale so far"?

      The other issue for me is that boxing does a very poor job of developing its "potential" stars. For example, young, "good looking guys" (no ****) like the Charlo twins with actual above-average boxing skills should be on the path to becoming stars in the traditional sense of term.
      Have you ever asked yourself if race plays a significant role?

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      • lizard_man
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        #13
        Im actually going to be at the fight. Floor seats baby. But i got my tv on auto start when the crawford fight is on to give him extra viewership.

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          #14
          It might break 1 million but it won't make him a superstar. Crawford need to fight Pacquiao to raise his profile but when Horn gets a win over Manny, I'm not sure if beating him will change anything.

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            #15
            Originally posted by Eff Pandas
            Spence got 6M on national TV & idk if he's legit a star yet.

            I'm not even sure what exactly a star in boxing means. You can sell x PPV's? You've made x money? You are known by x% of people? The bigger question is wtf is the definition of a star in boxing?

            I guess mainly idk that a star is simply about ratings.
            I'm still scratching my head at how Spence pulled in 6M views. None of the casual fans that I know even know who Spence is.

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              #16
              Originally posted by Deevel916
              I'm still scratching my head at how Spence pulled in 6M views. None of the casual fans that I know even know who Spence is.
              His fight was right after USA Men's BBall team gold medal game, so people were already in front of their TV.

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              • Afi23
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                #17
                Originally posted by siablo14
                They don't seem to be articulate.
                Indeed, they might be a still bit "raw" for a lack of better word. But to me, so far, they seem to be always "on the edge" whether it's fight week or post fight. Both Charlos seem like they are ready to "explode" at any moment, they always seem tense, carrying a huge chip on their shoulders. By comparison, Spence, who is also from the south, always seems to be laid back and cool.

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                  #18
                  Originally posted by Afi23
                  Indeed, they might be a still bit "raw" for a lack of better word. But to me, so far, they seem to be always "on the edge" whether it's fight week or post fight. Both Charlos seem like they are ready to "explode" at any moment, they always seem tense, carrying a huge chip on their shoulders. By comparison, Spence, who is also from the south, always seems to be laid back and cool.
                  The bad guy role suits Jermal well. Spence's dad seems laid back and cool too. I have never seen his dad do an interview or try to hog the limelight.

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                    #19
                    Originally posted by siablo14
                    The bad guy role suits Jermal well. Spence's dad seems laid back and cool too. I have never seen his dad do an interview or try to hog the limelight.
                    I must admit, the Charlos could play the vilains if they want too: they got the look for it, the demeanor, etc. Let's say that if Spence wanted to be Batman they could be his Joker.

                    For example, Porter is another guy that, though he is short could be turned into a star with his bright smile, the relationship he has with his dad. The same could be said for a guy like Loma. I feel like boxing has quite a few guys that have that "star look".

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                    • Afi23
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                      #20
                      Another reason why boxers have a hard time becoming stars:


                      Vasyl forget your "hit list" done via twitter using initials trying to be slick, you had a goddamn microphone stuck in front of you live on ESPN right after your fight saturday, call out these guys instead of giving a generic answer!

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