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  • Scipio2009
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    #41
    Skills are skills, but if you're dead at the weight, you're dead at the weight

    Originally posted by Verus
    You are kidding, right? You forget that Margarito was an accomplished professional boxer who fought several world champions and beat folks like Paul Williams, Joshua Clottey, Golden Johnson, Kermit Cintron and a host of other solid professional boxers. McGregor has had Zero professional fights and is fighting one of the best boxers of the last 25 years. It is a freak show and con game my friend. That is all it is. I do admit, however, that freaky stuff sells.
    Adrien Broner, as mercurial a fighter as he is, has boxing ability; he's not doing **** to anybody at 135lbs, on the simple fact that getting down to the weight, as dry as he looked at the Mikey Garcia weigh-in, would leave whatever fight he had in him in the sauna. Simple, really.

    McGregor is nowhere near Floyd's ability in a boxing ring; no one is arguing that.

    My point is that, even though the ability question is what it is, McGregor's not walking into his fight with Floyd at all physically compromised; McGregor is set to fight at the weight that he's basically physically perfect for.

    It's an obvious spectacle, but at least it's kinda on the level; this isn't like The Gladiator, with one guy basically having a shiv in his chest before going one-on-one.

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    • Scipio2009
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      #42
      Originally posted by Shadoww702
      That's the best way to enjoy fights. Personally I love it when they're on ESPN, FOX, etc... That way I can watch them at a bar or restaurant. Pretty much every bar/restuarant has these channels. I rarely see HBO or Showtime fights outside my house or friends place
      No idea what your area is like, but found a bar close enough to me that carries everything (PPV comes with extra, but worth the trade-off) and another spot further out that gets everything but Showtime (which ******, until I picked up the Showtime app for my phone; get the fights live, with mostly good quality), so I guess I'm spoiled for choice at the moment.

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      • job43
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        #43
        Besides the biggest superfight ever happening by not being able to sign Fedor and called his camp "Crazy Russians" Yeah everything he said is true. Bob ain't giving us what we want. He once said he doesn't like giving good undercards because the only people who care about them are the true boxing fans and that don't make money. Something like that

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        • gauze
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          #44
          Originally posted by Verus
          You are kidding, right? You forget that Margarito was an accomplished professional boxer who fought several world champions and beat folks like Paul Williams, Joshua Clottey, Golden Johnson, Kermit Cintron and a host of other solid professional boxers. McGregor has had Zero professional fights and is fighting one of the best boxers of the last 25 years. It is a freak show and con game my friend. That is all it is. I do admit, however, that freaky stuff sells.
          i guess you forgot, because paul williams won that fight by unanimous decision.

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          • Verus
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            #45
            Originally posted by Scipio2009
            Adrien Broner, as mercurial a fighter as he is, has boxing ability; he's not doing **** to anybody at 135lbs, on the simple fact that getting down to the weight, as dry as he looked at the Mikey Garcia weigh-in, would leave whatever fight he had in him in the sauna. Simple, really.

            McGregor is nowhere near Floyd's ability in a boxing ring; no one is arguing that.

            My point is that, even though the ability question is what it is, McGregor's not walking into his fight with Floyd at all physically compromised; McGregor is set to fight at the weight that he's basically physically perfect for.

            It's an obvious spectacle, but at least it's kinda on the level; this isn't like The Gladiator, with one guy basically having a shiv in his chest before going one-on-one.
            This is all a pretend thing. Pretend that McGregor can box with one of the all time greats. Since they are about the same size, let's pretend that it would be OK for McGregor wrestle with Olympic Champion Dan Gable and call it a wrestling match. Even at age 68, Gable would smoke Conor McGregor.

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            • Verus
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              #46
              Originally posted by gauze
              i guess you forgot, because paul williams won that fight by unanimous decision.
              You are right. I stand corrected.

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              • gauze
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                #47
                Originally posted by Verus
                You are right. I stand corrected.
                great fight though. i need to revisit that one.

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                • Scipio2009
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                  #48
                  Originally posted by Verus
                  This is all a pretend thing. Pretend that McGregor can box with one of the all time greats. Since they are about the same size, let's pretend that it would be OK for McGregor wrestle with Olympic Champion Dan Gable and call it a wrestling match. Even at age 68, Gable would smoke Conor McGregor.
                  Maybe. But, even then, at least you'd be talking about two men with no artificial detriments (no idea what type of shape Dan Gable is in), facing off.

                  Skills will end up ruling the day, but imagine if Conor had been asked to make 145, or lower, and then wrestle Gable.

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                  • Verus
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                    #49
                    Originally posted by Scipio2009
                    Maybe. But, even then, at least you'd be talking about two men with no artificial detriments (no idea what type of shape Dan Gable is in), facing off.

                    Skills will end up ruling the day, but imagine if Conor had been asked to make 145, or lower, and then wrestle Gable.
                    We will never know. Enjoy the Mayweather Conor show.

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                    • Verus
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                      #50
                      Originally posted by gauze
                      great fight though. i need to revisit that one.
                      Fate dealt Paul Williams a cruel blow. Hope he has a successful career as a trainer.

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