Comments Thread For: Mikey Garcia Feels Lomachenko Clash Could Become PPV Clash

[rickJen]

The nerve of this Mickey guy is unnerving.
He leaves TR and joins Haymon/Schafer.
Supposedly not to ever deal with Arum again.
Now he's talking about a clash with one of TR's fighters on PPV.
Kills me.

[BOXEO _]

Sheit I'd pay. Hope it aint PPV though.

[Bronx2245]

You know where my $$$ rides with Canelo. Broner is still VERY GOOD!!! Losing to Mikey Garcia, Maidana, or Porter ALL by decision doesn't mean you suk

Mikey is going to destroy Linares. And ill bet anyone who says different. TKO or bust.

Pac is a HOFamers won't even take 30 mins for them figure that out.

Kovalov... don't get it twisted because he lost to P4P#1. He still gonna *** a LOT of ppl up. I just hope he quits doing it all alone

I think Mikey is great, definitely P4P Top 5! However, that doesn't mean he will sell big enough to make a move to PPVs! That's why I said, Mikey might be more like Marquez and Ward, great fighters who can't carry a PPV event. Same with Loma. Kovalev is a warrior, with crowd pleasing power, however he can't carry a PPV with Ward, much less without Ward! So is Loma more like Pacquiao, or more like Kovalev? Time will tell!

[Boxing lives]

This is only a PPV fight right now that both are red hot. Loma fights another can and it will lose sizzle. The market is there RIGHT NOW only.

[FinitoxDinamita]

U guys need to chill with this ppv sht.

10 years ago, this fight would have been on hbo boxing after dark.

[tokon]

A duck by Garcia?!?!? How is ANY fighter ducking here LMFAO? If Garcia didn't wanna fight Loma he'd not be showing up at sh^t Loma is at. Ducking lol. Some cats here are so f#cking ****** with this ducking nonsense.

If anyone is ducking here its f#cking Top Rank cuz TR gots beef with Mikey so they don't wanna see him get paid &/or work with him & they probably don't wanna risk losing value with their company in the event Mikey beats Loma. Mikey & Loma would fight each other in 6-8 weeks from today if left to their own devices. Its these f#cking promoters who f#ck up sh^t more than fighters.

Wow, chill out a little maybe?

Or read the rest of the line where Arum gets considered . . . .

By way of diverting your obvious rage, I am aware there are many reasons why fighters duck/avoid/don't move forward with potential match-ups. More often than not it's promoters, managers, TV networks, and ESPECIALLY $$ that prevent the fights happening not the fighters.

Thanks anyway.

[Eff Pandas]

Wow, chill out a little maybe?

Or read the rest of the line where Arum gets considered . . . .

By way of diverting your obvious rage, I am aware there are many reasons why fighters duck/avoid/don't move forward with potential match-ups. More often than not it's promoters, managers, TV networks, and ESPECIALLY $$ that prevent the fights happening not the fighters.

Thanks anyway.

Its such a dumb comment I got a lil excited admittedly.

Problem is how can guys not even in the same division be ducking each other? They were both at 126 for 3 months before Mikey fell out with TR. And now they've not even been anymore than 1 division apart since Mikey's return. You can't realllllly duck guys not even in your division.

And in general ducking is a accusation the dumbest NSB people talk about seriously cuz boxing is more complicated with behind the scene deals that could include money issues, option issues, 360-type deal issues & all kinds of other things that makes the juice not worth the squeeze despite many dummy fans saying "what...he turned down $3M for that...f#ck that chicken" while they don't even grasp how this sh^t all works & there are things beyond the money involved or schoolyard scared of a fight type fear involved. There is more business going on with fight talks that fans don't wanna concern themselves with cuz its a complicated & boring rabbithole to go down.

[tokon]

Its such a dumb comment I got a lil excited admittedly.

Problem is how can guys not even in the same division be ducking each other? They were both at 126 for 3 months before Mikey fell out with TR. And now they've not even been anymore than 1 division apart since Mikey's return. You can't realllllly duck guys not even in your division.

And in general ducking is a accusation the dumbest NSB people talk about seriously cuz boxing is more complicated with behind the scene deals that could include money issues, option issues, 360-type deal issues & all kinds of other things that makes the juice not worth the squeeze despite many dummy fans saying "what...he turned down $3M for that...f#ck that chicken" while they don't even grasp how this sh^t all works & there are things beyond the money involved or schoolyard scared of a fight type fear involved. There is more business going on with fight talks that fans don't wanna concern themselves with cuz its a complicated & boring rabbithole to go down.

Yes, all good points, and upon reflection I accept that my use of the "d*ck" word was inappropriate.

Out of the myraid of possible reasons fights don't get made, one fighter being physically/mentally "afraid" of another would be very rare. I do think that a fighter being "concerned" about a possible Loss on their record is sometimes a reason, especially if the rewards don't seem to justify that risk.

I completely accept your rationale that guys in different divisions cannot "duck" each other.

Thanks.

[TMT Hassan]

Are you ****ing serious? Neither of these guys have ever A-side headlined a card that's sold more than 10,000 seats -- in fact both of them sell closer to just a few thousand -- and yet Mikey is already talking about making this a PPV fight?

And how many decades are fans supposed to wait for this fight to happen for Mikey and Loma to go from selling 3,000 tickets when they fight to becoming PPV stars?

Hey Mikey how about this, how about you stop cherry picking guys and actually fight some elite opponents for once, then maybe after you beat a few, hardcore fans will actually start to talk about you to their casual fan friends, and casual fans might become interested in you, and you might become a pay-per-view star. But for you to retire for 3 years before becoming known at all, come back and only fight three cherry picked opponents, and act like you'll soon deserve to be on PPV, or hint that you will only fight the elite opponents if it's on PPV eventually, is everything that is wrong with boxing!

Oh and how come Mikey is willing to fight Danny Garcia, or apparently even Keith Thurman, on regular TV, but Lomachenko has to be PPV? Lomachenko isn't even as well known as Danny Garcia right now, so why would Garcia-DSG be on Showtime but Loma-Garcia has to be PPV?

This is starting to look more and more like a duck by Mikey. It's kind of strange that he would duck a junior lightweight, but be willing to fight welterweights, but if you look at his career so far, it does seem like moving weight classes doesn't bother him nearly as much as fighting top opponents does. So for example, if he was willing to fight Errol Spence on regular TV, but not Lomachenko, that would be really weird, but for him to be willing to face only Danny Garcia at 147, but not Loma at Junior Lightweight or Errol Spence at welterweight, that actually fits the pattern of his career. Elite opponents scare him, not jumping weight classes. After all, the Oxnard team with his brother has always been elite at cutting weight and rehydrating their fighters, from Victor Ortiz to Marcos Maidana to Brandon Rios and now Mikey Garcia. That is what they do.

Now I know Mikey has also mentioned fighting Thurman at 147, or Crawford at 140, but maybe that's all talk. Because he also used to talk about fighting Lomachenko at 135 soon, and his brother even talked about doing it this December, but now here he is talking about marinating it into a PPV fight instead. So I bet we'll eventually find out it's the same situation with his call outs of Thurman and Crawford. He's willing to fight the slower, less threatening opponents on non-PPV, like Broner and Danny Garcia, but the elite ones, he will only fight if he gets PPV money.

Sorry but, seeing as he is years away from pay-per-view, and Lomachenko might be even further away given that he's not Mexican, I consider this a duck. How can you retire for almost three years, fight a much bigger name than you like Broner and still fail to sell out Barclays, but talk about pay-per-view with a Ukrainian opponent who can barely speak English? Are you ****ing kidding me? You are both almost 30 years old, you are both peaking right now, so make the damn fight, and if it's a good fight, the rematch can be on pay-per-view a few years from now. If it's not a good fight, then a bad fight never deserved to be on pay-per-view anyway, but guess what, if you get the win even in a bad fight, then your future fights become even more significant as you build yourself into a pound-for-pound star off wins like that, and then those fights can become legitimate pay-per-views.

But right now Mikey is trying to play the New Age boxing game of never having a single significant fight off of per-per-view. Just fighting bums and cherry picked opponents to build his name and maybe finally become known to enough fans off of those performances by the time he's 35 to finally fight a top opponent on PPV, only for the hype to have died down for the fight by then because both of them look less spectacular at that point, leading to poor PPV sales and a wasted career.

Look at GGG-Jacobs. Look how bad those numbers were. And GGG is a way bigger star than either Mikey or Lomachenko.

Look at Kovalev-Ward both fights. Awful PPV sales, and both of them are more well known than Mikey and Lom are.

Crawford-Postol...

Man, just make this ****ing fight already. On normal TV. Neither of these guys are close to being PPV stars. They need some fights like these, in front of the largest audience possible, to make themselves PPV stars. Can't believe Mikey even went there man. Some bull**** for real.

u butthurt much?