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  • GhostofDempsey
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    #21
    Originally posted by Boxfan83
    He just evened the playing field.
    Evened the playing field how? Pac never showed any signs of PED use, and was never suspect until Floyd used false accusations as a ploy to duck him in his prime. Marquez has some very obvious signs of PED use that cannot be denied.

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    • WesternChamp
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      #22
      Originally posted by Boxfan83
      He just evened the playing field.
      you just spent a good time defending marquez on your earlier post and now you're saying he just even the playing field? LOL. so you admit he was juiced up then.

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      • Boxfan83
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        #23
        Originally posted by WesternChamp
        you just spent a good time defending marquez on your earlier post and now you're saying he just even the playing field? LOL. so you admit he was juiced up then.
        I said in my post the whole memo thing is suspect but I cant say Pac isnt suspect at all either. He gets accused of PEDs then all of a sudden cant TKO anyone? C'mon bro.

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          #24
          Originally posted by GhostofDempsey
          Evened the playing field how? Pac never showed any signs of PED use, and was never suspect until Floyd used false accusations as a ploy to duck him in his prime. Marquez has some very obvious signs of PED use that cannot be denied.
          After he gets accused all of a sudden he isnt the old Pac we all knew, thats suspect as hell.

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            #25
            Originally posted by Boxfan83
            After he gets accused all of a sudden he isnt the old Pac we all knew, thats suspect as hell.
            Pacquiao was robbed of stoppage from Margarito and Moseley.

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              #26
              Originally posted by Boxfan83
              I said in my post the whole memo thing is suspect but I cant say Pac isnt suspect at all either. He gets accused of PEDs then all of a sudden cant TKO anyone? C'mon bro.
              but check this out tho. pac's been dropping marquez in almost of 4 of their fights, busting marquez face up. now with marquez, he landed that same right hand since the first fight back in 2004.

              he wasnt able to putn a dent of pac, wasnt even able to drop him once. then all of a sudden he hooks up with memo and in the 4th fight he knocks pac down and then knocked him out cold with that same right hand he's been landing since the first fight.

              this is the reason he's being question about it. now with pac, what do you have on him that makes you think he was on peds?

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                #27
                Originally posted by Boxfan83
                After he gets accused all of a sudden he isnt the old Pac we all knew, thats suspect as hell.
                he gets accused of peds but didnt actually start random testing until 2014 so that makes no sense.

                lets see his choices of opponents after 2009. (when the peds accusation started)

                he fought clottey (who has stopped clottey before?)

                marqarito - tough as nail

                mosley - ran the whole fight (and who has stopped mosley before?)

                bradley (who has stopped bradley before?)

                so just by looking at these opponents, they are not easy to ko.

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                  #28
                  Originally posted by Boxfan83
                  He just evened the playing field.
                  Bingo!!!!!!

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                    #29
                    Marquez was juiced in the 3rd fight too. He was juicing before that even (no one remember REED making a thred talking about marquez massive new traps?). But 3rd and 4th the drugs and training had peaked for the 40 year old. The real difference between the 3rd and 4th fight with pacquiao was that Pacquiao did NO strength & conditioning, so ofcourse he's going to be ragged dolled around by a juice head.

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                      #30
                      The same tardos that can look at these two virtually identical photos and see definite PED use, look at Pacquiao's head turn into the great pumpkin and tell everyone it's just the haircut

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