Corrales: "You ain’t knocking out ****!"

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  • keystone30pack
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    #31
    Originally posted by Bozo_no no
    I think Corrales may have lost a step in these last two fights regardless of the win in the 1st fight.

    The problem is how he stands in Castillo's range too often. Unless he adjusts ala the 2nd Cassamayor fight (which was close but he used his jab height and reach) I think Castillo is favoed to win this one again.

    i agree, corrales' warrior mentality may prove to be his downfall in this fight

    while he won the first fight, he absorbed a horrendus beating

    the weight issues of castillo in the second fight are insignificant

    cheating or not corrales absorbed another ko shot that put him on the ass and left him to distrubed to be allowed to continue

    while castillo has been fighting for quite a long time, he still has more left in the tank than corrales

    castillo takes out corrales who's warrior worn legs force him to stay in front of corrales regardless if his mind knows that he shouldn't be doing so

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    • IwatchBoxing
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      #32
      What are your thoughts on Team Castillo trying to manipulate the scales for his rematch with Corrales?
      It's unfortunate that managers and trainers sink to such a level, that they have to play around with the scale. Especially when it comes to a quality fighter like Castillo. Even when I fought Castillo, he came in over weight! So it doesn't surprise me that they played with the scale. If his people would go so low to do something like that, they are capable of doing a lot of other dirty things. Unfortunately, this is a perfect example of how boxing gets a bad name. It isn't the fighters, it's the managers and promoters who hurt boxing.

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      • Smokin'
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        #33
        Originally posted by Bozo_no no
        I don't like talk of an unwritten code when fighters are constantly sacking eachother, head butting, and elbowing.

        There's no unwritten code in those instances, and I don't see how there's fouls all the time but all of a sudden what Corrales did was worse.
        I dunno. There's unwritten rules in every sport. You don't punch a guy in the nuts, you don't cheat with your best friends girl, and you don't spit out the mouthpiece. Bottom line.

        If it wasn't a major thing, then people would not be talking about it as much as they did. Corrales will go down in history as a cheat. It's happened plenty of times. Do you remember the famous Dempsey - Tunney long count? Or what about the bout with Benny Leonard and another lightweight where both fighters fell at the exact same time but the ref helped Benny up. Bottom line, i think it's fair to judge Corrales for what he did when history shows, that it's happened plenty of times, and fighters have been frowned upon in those isolate instances.

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        • Bozo_no no
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          #34
          Originally posted by Smokin'
          I dunno. There's unwritten rules in every sport. You don't punch a guy in the nuts.
          That's what I'm talking about, guys punch eachother in the nuts all the time.

          Do you know about Ali and Cooper and Ali's corner tearing the glove open?

          Corrales is going to go down in history as a cheat according to who?

          Come on.

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          • Smokin'
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            #35
            A lot of people will have him labeled a cheat. Just like some will also label Tito a cheat for low blowing Vargas twice after getting knocked down twice. Believe it or not, alot of history buffs do hold Ali's constant holding/torn glove when affecting his legacy. That's why alot of the top guys always choose Joe Louis as the top heavy - inside/outside the ring he was a great man!

            And believe it or not, the mouthpiece did effect the outcome of the fight (IMO). I know Corrales withstood amazing punishment, but the guy had an extra like 10 seconds to recupurate.

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            • keystone30pack
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              #36
              Originally posted by Bozo_no no
              Tell that to Frietas, or anyone else who's done it lately. Or to anyone who mixes in headbutts, elbows, pucnches on the break. All of these things can be called seasoned and savvy moves depending on who's looking at it.

              People overshadow the greatness of that fight by dwelling on the mouth piece. Corrales still got up from monster shots and came back with a vengence.

              while the mouth piece issue annoyed me at the time

              it is entirely possible that we would not be having this conversation if corrales did not by the extra time

              just as accidental headbutts add life and plot twists to the gameplan and possible outcome of the fight, the mouthpiece issue is no different

              ii fully believe that corrales would not have been able to absorb much more if he had not spit the piece out

              but to be able to continue after those punches regardless of a extra seconds and come back and win was shocking to say the least

              regardless jsut as the weight issue of the second fight, the mouthpiece issue is now irrelevant

              what is relevant is that corrales took a far worse beating in the first and second fights than did castillo

              it will show this weekend

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                #37
                Originally posted by pbds
                ....It should be 3 TKO's "boy" genius. Remember the mouthpiece gag???? huh huh BTW, I see your lust for Wlad is back in full effect.

                should be 3. ur an idiot my friend, and if think tony weeks's decision to stop the fight was wrong, then u have no idea when to stop a fight. Castillo was a rag doll, and got TKOed by the man with the better heart.

                And the MOUTHPIECE GAG put him in a severe disadvantage, so dont give me that "it was cheating" ****. If he didnt get the KO and it went to the scorecards he would have lost because of that 'GAG'. If castillo had one that fight, people would think that carrales was ****** for using the mouthpice GAG and that it did nothing. but as soon as he wins, we get a bunch of mindless ******* like u calling it a gag and a cheap way of getting himself back into the fight

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                  #38
                  Originally posted by Bozo_no no
                  That's what I'm talking about, guys punch eachother in the nuts all the time.

                  Do you know about Ali and Cooper and Ali's corner tearing the glove open?

                  Corrales is going to go down in history as a cheat according to who?

                  Come on.
                  right or wrong

                  i do see it being brought up whenver this trilogy is discussed

                  as in right now

                  or 10 years from now

                  it is unfortunate though

                  they are both warriors

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                  • xcaret
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                    #39
                    man stop your bitching, both are great fighters and this Saturday will show whos the better one, for now stfu and wait til Saturday, Thanks

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                    • SquareCircle
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                      #40
                      Originally posted by kfootball15
                      should be 3. ur an idiot my friend, and if think tony weeks's decision to stop the fight was wrong, then u have no idea when to stop a fight. Castillo was a rag doll, and got TKOed by the man with the better heart.

                      And the MOUTHPIECE GAG put him in a severe disadvantage, so dont give me that "it was cheating" ****. If he didnt get the KO and it went to the scorecards he would have lost because of that 'GAG'. If castillo had one that fight, people would think that carrales was ****** for using the mouthpice GAG and that it did nothing. but as soon as he wins, we get a bunch of mindless ******* like u calling it a gag and a cheap way of getting himself back into the fight
                      You are really making yourself out to look.... arrogant. The guy was almost KO'd and ****ed with his mouthpiece until he recovered, get your **** together. I don't wanna call it cheap because it was a spectacular turnaround victory by Corrales...But...it was cheap, way cheaper than coming in 3lb over the limit. See, the mouthpiece rule that bought Corrales so much time is this rule that the ref has to order the piece cleaned after it hits the canvas. Corrales exploited a rule in place for the comfort of the fighters, all Castillo did was eat.

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