Comments Thread For: Errol Spence Explains Why Canelo Will Beat Gennady Golovkin

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  • Shadoww702
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    #171
    Originally posted by Diego Rodriguez
    I'm sure Canelo has a plan. Is it the right plan? What's that about everyone has a plan until they get punched in the face? IMO there really are a lot of questions that we just won't know until we see them in the ring.

    What I don't see is Canelo fighting fundamentally any different than what he has done in the past. That means he'll be in front of Golovkin. He doesn't have the ability nor the mindset to fight like Jacobs or Brook. He lacks the footwork to do that and I don't think the conditioning either. There is no Apollo Creed who is going to be running with him on the beach.

    I also don't think Canelo has the mindset to engage in a phone booth battle. I don't see him staying inside and battling it out in that type of fight. If there are two types of fighters that I could see giving Golovkin a problem, it is a boxer who can stick and move or a guy who can fight effectively in close quarters and has a size advantage. Even when Canelo knew that was his only shot against Mayweather he was intent on staying on the outside and trying to outbox Floyd. It was literally one of the worst game plans I've seen going into a fight. In sum I guess I've yet to see a whole lot of variation in Canelo's plan. The style he brings IMO is perfectly suited to where Golovkin wants to fight.

    I think the jab will be very telling. If Golovkin establishes the jab I think it will be a blow out for Golovkin. If Canelo can neutralize it then it is going to be a super close fight. That's how I see it.
    I think the fight will be a lot closer than most think. Both have GREAT under rated jabs. Canelo has very good head and hand speed. He has very good 1-2 foot speed but suks past that. He won't need that against GGG. And he has some great combos. Which usually all involve a body shot. His body to uppercut combo is a think of beauty.

    You bring up conditioning but he's been in a lot of 12 round fights. GGG has been in 1. Heck I think he's only been past the 8th round like twice???

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    • Lester Tutor
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      #172
      Originally posted by Diego Rodriguez
      I'm sure Canelo has a plan. Is it the right plan? What's that about everyone has a plan until they get punched in the face? IMO there really are a lot of questions that we just won't know until we see them in the ring.

      What I don't see is Canelo fighting fundamentally any different than what he has done in the past. That means he'll be in front of Golovkin. He doesn't have the ability nor the mindset to fight like Jacobs or Brook. He lacks the footwork to do that and I don't think the conditioning either. There is no Apollo Creed who is going to be running with him on the beach.

      I also don't think Canelo has the mindset to engage in a phone booth battle. I don't see him staying inside and battling it out in that type of fight. If there are two types of fighters that I could see giving Golovkin a problem, it is a boxer who can stick and move or a guy who can fight effectively in close quarters and has a size advantage. Even when Canelo knew that was his only shot against Mayweather he was intent on staying on the outside and trying to outbox Floyd. It was literally one of the worst game plans I've seen going into a fight. In sum I guess I've yet to see a whole lot of variation in Canelo's plan. The style he brings IMO is perfectly suited to where Golovkin wants to fight.

      I think the jab will be very telling. If Golovkin establishes the jab I think it will be a blow out for Golovkin. If Canelo can neutralize it then it is going to be a super close fight. That's how I see it.
      Danny Swfit Garcia was able to tame Peterson, Matthysse, Khan, Judah. Good fundamentals are a huge part for any composure. Why would "footwork" (as in whom as an example, Jacobs?) gives the impression that Alvarez wouldn't do good against GGG simply with fundamentals?

      People are forgetting the circumstances: Gennady will most likely be cautious of Nelo's power, and he will have to test the waters when he gets hit. The question is does Gennady want to apply all his experience with a sneaky counter puncher in Alvarez. Golovkin wasn't hutt in the Jacobs fight, if he wasn't afraid of Jacobs power he would've went for the KO.

      Therefore, if Golovkin doesn't go for the KO and Nelo's compubox is better than Jacobs, those are facts we will need to rebump

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      • TonyGe
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        #173
        Originally posted by aceventura
        Canelo might dominate ggg like mikey dominated broner....
        The chances of that happening are slim and none and Slim left town on the last bus..
        Last edited by TonyGe; 07-31-2017, 05:52 PM.

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        • hugh grant
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          #174
          Nelo that good is he to be favourite in some eyes. So GGG must get serious credit if he wins

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          • Diego Rodriguez
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            #175
            Originally posted by Shadoww702
            I think the fight will be a lot closer than most think. Both have GREAT under rated jabs. Canelo has very good head and hand speed. He has very good 1-2 foot speed but suks past that. He won't need that against GGG. And he has some great combos. Which usually all involve a body shot. His body to uppercut combo is a think of beauty.

            You bring up conditioning but he's been in a lot of 12 round fights. GGG has been in 1. Heck I think he's only been past the 8th round like twice???
            That is a fair point about Golovkin. I think his conditioning is good, not great. I think one of the side effects of throwing with such power is that he drains the tank, just like a car. At 65 things are smooth, every 5 miles a hour takes more gas to achieve. You throw with such power it is going to impact your stamina. Lemieux is another example, hits like a mule but a noticeable decline in stamina from the 4th round and on.

            I think Canelo's conditioning is fine for the style he wants to imploy, what I was saying about his conditioning is that I don't think he would have the conditioning to be bouncing around for 12 rounds.

            I think Canelo is a very good fighter. I don't think he is great. Now he goes out and beats Golovkin, that would be a truly great win and I'd have to obviously change my opinion. I don't like to belittle either, who ever wins is going to have a great feather in their cap.

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            • kushking
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              #176
              Originally posted by kafkod
              Golovkin didn't force a purse split, or a purse bid. You said you can prove that he did and challenged me to an account bet. .

              I accepted that bet. Now either back up your words or do what I know you would do if I was standing there in front of you ... tuck your tail between your legs and run away, like the pathetic little prick you are.
              Ok little girl you said wed count espn as proof & wbc own site/rules.

              Read'em & weep COWARD,

              http://www.espn.com/boxing/story/_/i...adline-looming


              https://RULES & REGULATIONS OF THE W... ARTICLE I ...

              Now delete your account you coward,lets see if your man enough to back up your words.

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              • kushking
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                #177
                Originally posted by kushking
                Ok little girl you said wed count espn as proof & wbc own site/rules.

                Read'em & weep COWARD,

                http://www.espn.com/boxing/story/_/i...adline-looming


                https://RULES & REGULATIONS OF THE W... ARTICLE I ...

                Now delete your account you coward,lets see if your man enough to back up your words.

                Anyone nuetral wanna be a witness to tell this loudmouth to kick rocks for good? Anyone that reads my links should come to conclusion beyond a reasonable doubt that ggg forced a purse bid by forcing 15 day deadline. And that as Dan Rapheal the ggg nuthugger even wrote it was a 45%-55% split as per wbc rules I linked. Anyone who reads his claims & mines Should come to conclusion I won.

                Heres a qoute from article
                Alvarez and Golden Boy CEO Oscar De La Hoya faced a Tuesday deadline to make the mandatory fight or the WBC would hold a purse bid, an auction in which promotional rights to the fight would have gone to the highest bidder. The bid amount is split between the fighters, generally a 55-45 split in the case of a WBC title fight between a titleholder and interim titlist.
                The sides still had many issues to address, and the fight was unlikely to be finalized by the purse bid, so Alvarez vacated the title but said he still very much wants to fight Golovkin.When Loeffler and De La Hoya were negotiating, the weight for the bout was not an issue, Loeffler said.

                "It never came into play," he said. "It was about the financial aspects of the fight, the location. It wasn't really in-depth yet, but weight didn't come up. It wasn't a stumbling block."
                Last edited by kushking; 07-31-2017, 06:30 PM.

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                • A-Wolf
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                  #178
                  That's a surprisingly limited appraisal considering the source.

                  I'll disagree 100%.

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                  • kushking
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                    #179
                    Originally posted by kafkod
                    and fuck off.
                    Lets see if this guy has any word or balls. If you delete your account Ill give you chance to create a new one & gift yourself your points,but if you wanna be a coward then thats cool too,Lets see if your a man of your word.

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                    • aboutfkntime
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                      #180
                      Originally posted by A-Wolf
                      That's a surprisingly limited appraisal considering the source.

                      I'll disagree 100%.

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