Will Andre Ward would be favourite if he fights Usyk?

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  • Holystroke3
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    #31
    Originally posted by BoxingIsGreat
    What are you talking about? Watch this:

    Kovalev 3
    Why???????

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      #32
      Originally posted by Holystroke3
      Why???????
      Slim pickings. What else is there? Fonfara?

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        #33
        Originally posted by BoxingIsGreat
        Slim pickings. What else is there? Fonfara?
        There aren't many realistic options at 175 but is there any interest in that fight at all?

        Hell, a Barrera rematch is looking better than Kovalev 3 right now

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          #34
          Oleksandr Usyk:

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            #35
            Originally posted by Holystroke3
            There aren't many realistic options at 175 but is there any interest in that fight at all?

            Hell, a Barrera rematch is looking better than Kovalev 3 right now
            I don't wanna see it either, but what else is there? Bellew is the right choice for his pockets.

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              #36
              Originally posted by BoxingIsGreat
              Usyk is better 'boxer' than Anthony Joshua, more technical. He easily would beat him in Amateurs...

              But if he moves up and fight Joshua, he would be knocked out due to size and strenght differences. Difference between Amateurs and Pros.

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                #37
                Originally posted by oscar9992
                Usyk is better 'boxer' than Anthony Joshua, more technical. He easily would beat him in Amateurs...

                But if he moves up and fight Joshua, he would be knocked out due to size and strenght differences. Difference between Amateurs and Pros.
                I don't think so. He's a big cruiserweight, he can handle the weight. He's fought at heavyweight before.

                Anthony Joshua is a big, big mummy, from what I've seen so far. He can't hang with this brother. He'll be tired in a couple of rounds, unless he gets him with a big punch.

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                • Mr Objecitivity
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                  #38
                  All these threads and questions about a lighter boxer from a lighter weight division coming to a higher weight division and being the favorite to beat the best in the higher weight division is irrational and should be avoided. Weight divisions exist for a reason, which is to avoid mismatches through a boxer having a significant weight advantage. In addition, a boxer isn't guaranteed to be as good in the higher weight division as in the lower weight division. If the bout is to take place at cruiserweight, then there's no way Andre Ward should be the favorite. Simply because Andre Ward is an inferior cruiser-weight boxer to Oleksandr Usyk by virtue of having no feats / accomplishments in that particular weight division. His feats / accomplishments below cruiserweight become irrelevant as the bout isn't taking place there.

                  Everything being equal, the heavier boxer would almost always be the favorite.

                  There is no reason to assume a boxer from a lower weight division would be the favorite to beat the best / one of the best boxers in a higher weight division. In this case, there's no reason to assume Andre Ward would be the favorite to beat Oleksandr Usyk. Simply because, if a lighter boxer believed he could beat the best boxers in a heavier weight division, then he wouldn't be competing in a lower weight division and would've moved up already. The fact that Andre Ward moved up to light heavyweight and not to cruiserweight should be enough to indicate that he isn't too confident and doesn't fancy his chances at cruiserweight. Otherwise, why didn't he already move up?

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                  • jmrf4435
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                    #39
                    USyk is the next big thing at cruiser

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                    • boxinggod101
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                      #40
                      Originally posted by mlac
                      He's an olympic gold medalist, world champion in his 10th fight who is about to clean out one of the best divisions in boxing and move up to HW

                      HTH
                      Yeah but hes not a super duper black slicksta. He cant shoulder roll so no. I dont like him. Hes a little too pale for my taste

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