Kellerman on PEDs

[TheWaterBoy]

Max Kellerman is on PEDs?

Nawh, I doubt it. Probably just dehydrated.

[Mike D]

Max Kellerman is on PEDs?

Nawh, I doubt it. Probably just dehydrated.

I truly believe that Max is on PEDs. Without them he'd be running from gym to gym using his phone to record interviews like Elie does.

[Spoon23]

It was well documented that Floyd Mayweather was making a stand to clean up boxing

Floyd said:

@ 00:20 - Nevada commission is one of the best commision in the world (that's why they absolved me by giving me that late TUE exemption lol) And My ultimate goal is not just USADA (WHO GAVE ME ILLEGAL IVS) and the sport of boxing, but For USADA AND PROFESSIONAL SPORTS PERIOD.

@ 0:36 - Because there is too much cheating going on in sports! lololololololol



Victor Conte talks about Floyd's low T/E ratio

Probably the most su****ious part for me:

A normal testosterone-to-epitestosterone ratio is slightly more than 1-to-1. Conte says that one recent study of the general population “placed the average T-E ratio for whites at 1.2-to-1 and for blacks at 1.3-to-1.”

Under WADA standards, a testosterone-to-epitestosterone ratio of up to 4-to-1 is acceptable. That allows for any reasonable variation in an athlete’s natural testosterone level (which, for an elite athlete, might be particularly high). If the ratio is above 4-to-1, an athlete is presumed to be doping.

Some athletes who use exogenous testosterone game the system by administering exogenous epitestosterone to drive their testosterone-to-epitestosterone ratio down beneath the permitted ceiling. This can be done by injection or by the application of epitestosterone as a cream. In the absence of a CIR test, this masks the use of synthetic testosterone.

But there’s a catch. If an athlete tries to manipulate his or her testosterone-to-epitestosterone ratio, it is difficult to balance the outcome. If an athlete uses too much epitestosterone - and the precise amount is difficult to calibrate - the result can be an abnormally low T-E ratio.

Mayweather’s testosterone-to-epitestosterone ratio for the April 3, 2013, sample was 0.80. His testosterone-to-epitestosterone ratio for the Aug. 18, 2011, sample was 0.69.

“That’s a warning flag,” says Don Catlin. “If you’re serious about the testing, it tells you to do the CIR test.”

The Nevada State Athletic Commission wasn’t as knowledgeable with regard to PED testing several years ago as it is now. Commission personnel might not have understood the possible implications of the 0.69 and 0.80 numbers. But USADA officials were knowledgeable.

[Spoon23]

Floyd, the man who want to clean up boxing.

Hypocrisy?

You tell me..

[Mike D]

The only guy in the sport that I know for sure that hasn't doped is Paulie

Because the guy has the pure one punch power of a f**king gnat

Everybody else, especially at the top level, is a suspect

I mean we're talking modern day gladiators who go into a ring to either beat the **** out of the guy across from them....or get the **** beat out of them themselves

It's a brutal, cutthroat sport and there's little doubt that a high percentage of them are going to be open to damn near anything to give them an edge, especially if they're confident in their ability to evade the system

[davef]

even as a fan of mayweathers skills it wouldnt surprise me if has doped in the past the guy brings in so much money for tv networks and vegas ect that plenty of people would be willing to brush it under the carpet to line their pockets with dollars

id say its very reasonable to presume that a high percentage of top fighters are on something to gain an edge

[LockardTheGOAT]

when your proffessional requires you to be the best physical specimen you can be you'd have to be an idiot not to do drugs.

You can say similar things about literally any profession in the world. So basically you're saying you have to be an idiot not to cheat.

[HarvardBlue]

The only guy in the sport that I know for sure that hasn't doped is Paulie

Because the guy has the pure one punch power of a f**king gnat

Everybody else, especially at the top level, is a suspect

I mean we're talking modern day gladiators who go into a ring to either beat the **** out of the guy across from them....or get the **** beat out of them themselves

It's a brutal, cutthroat sport and there's little doubt that a high percentage of them are going to be open to damn near anything to give them an edge, especially if they're confident in their ability to evade the system

It's not always about punching power. Sometimes people use PEDs for faster recovery or longer work outs. I would never say never about ANYONE.

[Mike D]

even as a fan of mayweathers skills it wouldnt surprise me if has doped in the past the guy brings in so much money for tv networks and vegas ect that plenty of people would be willing to brush it under the carpet to line their pockets with dollars

And I would say that also applies to all the legitimate boxing stars out there past & present. There's millions & millions of dollars at stake for big fights...there ain't no way they're going to be the ones to stand in between of all that.

Like Canelo/GGG, let's take them for example. Let's say one of them tested positive before the fight (just for argument's sake)...there's no f**king way that they'd suspend one of them and derail that fight. Boxing is a business, it ain't no different than any other business. There's no stopping certain money trains, especially over a failed tox screen.

[Mike D]

It's not always about punching power. Sometimes people use PEDs for faster recovery or longer work outs.

Oh yeah, absolutely.