How Come Ward vs GGG is older than Nelo vs GGG?

[bluebeam]

How many consistent instances are there in boxing culture and rules where Champions are allowed voluntary defenses? From Khan to Chavez Jr. was a year and GBP exploits Mexican holidays. The wait is justified, especially if GGG supposedly has a Mexican following nobody is complaining. Is anybody complaining about Joshua vs Wilder? How long has it been since the concept of unifying between these two? How long has it been Joshua has been champion? The fight can happen correct?

Has it been two years or more regarding any hype for Rigo vs Loma?

Let's say in any of those scenarios it's more than 3+ plus years, how are those better than a bout that Alvarez promised in his own words. Alvarez told Billy Joe Saunders to his face that he didn't like the WBC flaming him on a "consequential" purse bid during his Allstar lawsuit.

Right there BJS stayed quiet!!!! Why!!?? Out of respect that BJs gave him the benefit of the doubt? You'll hear BjS call GGG a bîtch more than him bothering Alvarez. Why? Because fighters know Nelo comes off cool.

I'm telling y'all the Karma is near.

they should have fought after canelo beat cotto. they both looked invincible at that point.

Now golovkin has lost some luster and so has the fight.


and I am complaining about wilder Joshua not happening asap.

I wanted rigo vs Loma a year ago.

canelo vs golovkin is happening and I'm happy about that. but all that marinating has left the fight with no mainstream hype. cause boxing vs UFC stole the shine.

[Mammoth]

Because Canelo and Golovkin are cowards

[Lester Tutor]

they should have fought after canelo beat cotto. they both looked invincible at that point.

Now golovkin has lost some luster and so has the fight.


and I am complaining about wilder Joshua not happening asap.

I wanted rigo vs Loma a year ago.

canelo vs golovkin is happening and I'm happy about that. but all that marinating has left the fight with no mainstream hype. cause boxing vs UFC stole the shine.

You forgot to mention that Gennady had the opportunity to Unify all the belts in his hometown and be Undisputed. How often would this happen? Instead he chose to fight Alvarez in case he would've lost to BJS.

[ggg_kz]

Hence "older."
Hence "2013."
2017-2013 = 4 years...

2013-2015 one fight in 2013 vs Edwin Rodríguez @168. After that he was unavailable due to shoulder or promotional problems. Refer back to GGG interview where Ward said "no" in 2013.

2015-2017 Ward finally started fighting but starting from 172 and up. Only dumbasses wouldn't see a trend that 168 was no longer an option for maturing Ward who was on the shelf for 1.5 years.

So 168 talk is irrelevant and mostly thanks to Ward. Even now Virgil Hunter says 168 is possible, but Ward says "idk what Virgil is thinking, but fk no, I won't go down to 168 for any fight". Case closed.

[bluebeam]

You forgot to mention that Gennady had the opportunity to Unify all the belts in his hometown and be Undisputed. How often would this happen? Instead he chose to fight Alvarez in case he would've lost to BJS.

no, he chose to fight Alvarez because there was no guarantee he would get a fight with him if he didn't go September 17th.

golovkin wasn't gonna take anymore chances of canelo prolonging this fight

[bluebeam]

2013-2015 one fight in 2013 vs Edwin Rodríguez @168. After that he was unavailable due to shoulder or promotional problems. Refer back to GGG interview where Ward said "no" in 2013.

2015-2017 Ward finally started fighting but starting from 172 and up. Only dumbasses wouldn't see a trend that 168 was no longer an option for maturing Ward who was on the shelf for 1.5 years.

So 168 talk is irrelevant and mostly thanks to Ward. Even now Virgil Hunter says 168 is possible, but Ward says "idk what Virgil is thinking, but fk no, I won't go down to 168 for any fight". Case closed.

you left out the part where roc nation sent k2 a contract for a fight at 168.

so obviously team ward planned on making 168 for Gennady

[GGG Gloveking]

You forgot to mention that Gennady had the opportunity to Unify all the belts in his hometown and be Undisputed. How often would this happen? Instead he chose to fight Alvarez in case he would've lost to BJS.

And If he fought Saunders you would have b itched he was ducking Canelo

[Lester Tutor]

And If he fought Saunders you would have b itched he was ducking Canelo

I've made more threads than your general posting that Gennady should've already unified and gone to 168. Why would he need Alvarez when he's Undisputed? Imagine ESPN having fun with a 160 4-belt champion dis*****g that Alvarez is not the A side. What leverage would Alvarez have if Gennady had all the belts? Anybody wanting to fight Golovkin for any belt would have to get in line like mandatories.

Common sense much?

[GGG Gloveking]

I've made more threads than your general posting that Gennady should've already unified and gone to 168. Why would he need Alvarez when he's Undisputed? Imagine ESPN having fun with a 160 4-belt champion dis*****g that Alvarez is not the A side. What leverage would Alvarez have if Gennady had all the belts? Anybody wanting to fight Golovkin for any belt would have to get in line like mandatories.

Common sense much?

Canelo is the lineal champ, right? That does carry a little weight, right? And if 3 belts doesn't give GGG "A side" status, what good would the 4th really do? And why can't GGG fight Canelo now, and Saunders in December?

Or maybe you'd rather sit there like a fuçking ass hole and insult someone's intelligence

[Lester Tutor]

Canelo is the lineal champ, right? That does carry a little weight, right? And if 3 belts doesn't give GGG "A side" status, what good would the 4th really do? And why can't GGG fight Canelo now, and Saunders in December?

Or maybe you'd rather sit there like a fuçking ass hole and insult someone's intelligence

You're honestly gonna pretend that Golovkin rather have a "Lineal belt" in ditching BJS, so as to not have 4 and be Undisputed? Where would Alvarez fight at 160 once Golovkin has all the belts? What SAY does GBP have when K2's champion has every single strap in each council? Is GBP gonna ride with purse bid options for every council because of split disagreements?

The only logical explaination is that K2 coerced Golovkin for their best interest not his. Golovkin has CLEARLY said far too many occasions he wants all the belts like the 160 greats before him.

Let me ask you, who's harder to beat, BJS or Alvarez? If both are supposedly easy, why not fulfill the Astana dream and unify in your own country ffs. Do you think Kazakhstani boxing culture gives a fûck about the Lineal when the ABC are clear as day with news saying the "New Undisputed Champion."

I'm just itching to hear your responses as well as others after Sept.