1. So did Joe Calzaghe, Sven Ottke, Rocky Marciano, Ricardo Lopez - fighters who are often ridiculed by Mayweather fans
2. Many fighters left promoters. One could argue changed the game for the worse - a lot of fans left the sport because of Floyd and he created a whole new era of marinating fights and helped contribute holding fights off and avoiding tough fights whilst just waiting for the big payday.
3. Irrelevant. PPV is a new concept. Didn't have it in the days of Robinson, Ali, Louis, Hagler, Leonard, Duran etc etc; etc; (basically 90% of hall of fame weren't in PPV era). If you want to say that it is then ok Floyd never packed a stadium or fought in front of a live crowd bigger than 15k
4. I'm assuming you meant greatest defense? Not sure. Willie Pep and Pernell Whitaker could certainly argue that, but doubt you know much about either.
5. Was hurt badly by Mosley, was hurt by Corley, was dropped by Famoso Hernandez and Zab Judah, but perhaps that's before you started watching Floyd.
6. You mean in the ring smarts? He has a great ring IQ, but there's so many fighters that could claim that title. There isn't a clear cut "smartest fighter ever".
7. How? Pacquaio went on to make probably $40-50m after that "fight". If you mean ended his career as an elite fighter. No. Marquez did when he damn near killed the man. That's why Mayweather fought him. Floyd-Pacquaio is irrelevant historically as a fight since it was just a money grab by then. Floyd needed to step up to that challenge earlier and when Marquez schooled Pacquaio in 2011 he still didn't and then Marquez iced Pacquaio that was kind of the end. If Floyd was the most powerful boxer ever and the boss and ruler of the sport the Pacquaio fight happens when he wants it NOT in 2015 when Pacquaio was washed up.
All in all he's a great fighter with a legacy that divides. He brought in a lot of new fans that don't really know or respect the sport and it's history and obviously turned a lot of people off boxing/drove some long time fans away with his personality, boring fights, selective matchmaking and general circus around him.
Some fans are too bitter and take some of that stuff too seriously and don't give him the necessary credit as a great elite level guy that could do well in most era's.
Great fighter. Top 50 for sure, maybe even top 30 but to say the top 10 or top 5 ever is to not know the sport or respect it's history. Your probably the person who absolutely must think he's watching the g.o.a.t in any sport and anything before your time is trash and you stop watching the sport when he goes away and that any fighter that "challenges" your boy is crap and you hate. Also probably root for Canelo now in some weird this makes Floyd better kind of thing and roots for all TMT fighters.
You probably also care more about August 26th than the September 9th card or GGG-Canelo. That says your a fan of a fighter more than the sport. Usually that fandom is reserved for team sports and is understandable but to put an individual over an entire sport says A) your a fanboy or b) your just not that into the sport. I'd say 98% of Mayweather "fans" fall into this category. Many Pacquaio fans too but to a lesser extent.
1. So did Joe Calzaghe, Sven Ottke, Rocky Marciano, Ricardo Lopez - fighters who are often ridiculed by Mayweather fans
2. Many fighters left promoters. One could argue changed the game for the worse - a lot of fans left the sport because of Floyd and he created a whole new era of marinating fights and helped contribute holding fights off and avoiding tough fights whilst just waiting for the big payday.
3. Irrelevant. PPV is a new concept. Didn't have it in the days of Robinson, Ali, Louis, Hagler, Leonard, Duran etc etc; etc; (basically 90% of hall of fame weren't in PPV era). If you want to say that it is then ok Floyd never packed a stadium or fought in front of a live crowd bigger than 15k
4. I'm assuming you meant greatest defense? Not sure. Willie Pep and Pernell Whitaker could certainly argue that, but doubt you know much about either.
5. Was hurt badly by Mosley, was hurt by Corley, was dropped by Famoso Hernandez and Zab Judah, but perhaps that's before you started watching Floyd.
6. You mean in the ring smarts? He has a great ring IQ, but there's so many fighters that could claim that title. There isn't a clear cut "smartest fighter ever".
7. How? Pacquaio went on to make probably $40-50m after that "fight". If you mean ended his career as an elite fighter. No. Marquez did when he damn near killed the man. That's why Mayweather fought him. Floyd-Pacquaio is irrelevant historically as a fight since it was just a money grab by then. Floyd needed to step up to that challenge earlier and when Marquez schooled Pacquaio in 2011 he still didn't and then Marquez iced Pacquaio that was kind of the end. If Floyd was the most powerful boxer ever and the boss and ruler of the sport the Pacquaio fight happens when he wants it NOT in 2015 when Pacquaio was washed up.
All in all he's a great fighter with a legacy that divides. He brought in a lot of new fans that don't really know or respect the sport and it's history and obviously turned a lot of people off boxing/drove some long time fans away with his personality, boring fights, selective matchmaking and general circus around him.
Some fans are too bitter and take some of that stuff too seriously and don't give him the necessary credit as a great elite level guy that could do well in most era's.
Great fighter. Top 50 for sure, maybe even top 30 but to say the top 10 or top 5 ever is to not know the sport or respect it's history. Your probably the person who absolutely must think he's watching the g.o.a.t in any sport and anything before your time is trash and you stop watching the sport when he goes away and that any fighter that "challenges" your boy is crap and you hate. Also probably root for Canelo now in some weird this makes Floyd better kind of thing and roots for all TMT fighters.
You probably also care more about August 26th than the September 9th card or GGG-Canelo. That says your a fan of a fighter more than the sport. Usually that fandom is reserved for team sports and is understandable but to put an individual over an entire sport says A) your a fanboy or b) your just not that into the sport. I'd say 98% of Mayweather "fans" fall into this category. Many Pacquaio fans too but to a lesser extent.
I want 5 minutes of my life back.. can't believe I read that garbage
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