Comments Thread For: Amanda Serrano is Latest To Consider a Jump To MMA

[HAMMER77777]

Not really.

I think there are fewer girls making 6+ digits in boxing then in MMA. Ronda Rousey was making $3M+ before said f#ck this getting hit in the head bs.

And maybe about a dozen girls make 6 digits+ per year in MMA I'd guessimate. I'd be surprised if there are more than 2 or 3 women in boxing making that much. And if you're in the US I think your options are even poorer.

Ya for b!tches, you're probably right. I just meant, Boxing in general. If u ask me, only men should be Boxing anyway. I guess that's not PC though.

[Patsfan bri]

I would kiss her right where she pees

[Scipio2009]

Patience is key

Showtime it's starting to open the door up for women's boxing (it's not a floodgate yet, but Amanda Serrano, Heather Hardy, and Claressa Shields are starting to get opportunities), Cecilia Braekus (late in her run) is starting to get bigger plug, and the UK (boxing's hottest market) has Katie Taylor, Natasha Jonas, and Nicola Adams who are starting to draw real attention.

All boxing needs is their own Christy Martin/Ronda Rousey (Middle America, WASP, attractive enough, that can draw at the live gate, and who can fight).

Mikhaela Mayer, more or less, seems to fit that bill (have no idea if she can really fight or not, but she's pretty, has Middle America appeal, has roots in the vibrant SoCal boxing scene, and is tied to a promoter with the connections to feature her on undercards for bigger shows).

You get that one fighter that captures the imagination of the casual public, no different than with the UFC, and you've got the potential for a boom to happen.

[Eff Pandas]

Showtime it's starting to open the door up for women's boxing (it's not a floodgate yet, but Amanda Serrano, Heather Hardy, and Claressa Shields are starting to get opportunities), Cecilia Braekus (late in her run) is starting to get bigger plug, and the UK (boxing's hottest market) has Katie Taylor, Natasha Jonas, and Nicola Adams who are starting to draw real attention.

All boxing needs is their own Christy Martin/Ronda Rousey (Middle America, WASP, attractive enough, that can draw at the live gate, and who can fight).

Mikhaela Mayer, more or less, seems to fit that bill (have no idea if she can really fight or not, but she's pretty, has Middle America appeal, has roots in the vibrant SoCal boxing scene, and is tied to a promoter with the connections to feature her on undercards for bigger shows).

You get that one fighter that captures the imagination of the casual public, no different than with the UFC, and you've got the potential for a boom to happen.

Isn't she already doing pretty great? I thought I heard some cats saying she's getting 1M+ type paydays wherever she fights (Germany???) & I was thinking she is the highest paid female boxer right now.

I don't see anything changing anytime soon with pay for most woman boxers & certainly not in the US doe. I don't see anyone glamouring for more female boxing despite them trying their damnedest to push it on us boxing consumers. Heather Hardy has already flipped teams with her MMA debut within the last month or so. If your a 30 year old boxer I can't imagine you got a lot of patience to bet on at this point. MMA is the move for most of these girls & I believe Shields has even expressed some interest in pursuing MMA at some point.

[BoxAztinca]

MMA is a financial fart storm. She will end up broke and owing taxes like Floyd Mayweather

What do u mean? I'm not trying to be smart, I'm curious.

[Scipio2009]

Isn't she already doing pretty great? I thought I heard some cats saying she's getting 1M+ type paydays wherever she fights (Germany???) & I was thinking she is the highest paid female boxer right now.

I don't see anything changing anytime soon with pay for most woman boxers & certainly not in the US doe. I don't see anyone glamouring for more female boxing despite them trying their damnedest to push it on us boxing consumers. Heather Hardy has already flipped teams with her MMA debut within the last month or so. If your a 30 year old boxer I can't imagine you got a lot of patience to bet on at this point. MMA is the move for most of these girls & I believe Shields has even expressed some interest in pursuing MMA at some point.

She's doing great in Germany, but her profile, to the casual boxing fan in the US is near zero; brought her up as an example to help draw interest in the US (were she ever to come out here, or even simply have her fights picked up by HBO or Showtime to air.

Women's MMA has only been a thing for a very brief time and is only where it is now because Scott Coker took the chance on Gina Carano and looked to develop Ronda Rousey, and the UFC saw that Coker had enough success with it that it was worth making the attempt to try it out when they bought Strikeforce.

Boxing (at least with Showtime/CBS and PBC) is now starting that test out phase with the audience.

Claressa Shields is basically being set up, if she continues winning, to have an extended run as a feature fighter on ShoBox (not astronomical money, but good money that's then supplemented by the money she's getting from Puma); Heather Hardy and Amanda Serrano were both kind of set for similar paths, but the changes in rules for New York has basically killed off the ShoBox level cards in New York (the strongest ticketing market for either woman).

3-6 ShoBox shows each year, featuring female fights, as things seemed to be heading for before the NY change, would've been a good place to build from, imo

[SkillspayBills]

The fact that Heather Hardy got more in her MMA Debut than she did in any fight her entire career tells you all you need to know. Women's MMA will be the death knell of women's boxing.

[buge]

The fact that Heather Hardy got more in her MMA Debut than she did in any fight her entire career tells you all you need to know. Women's MMA will be the death knell of women's boxing.

Heather Hardy looked like **** in that fight, it was an embarrassment to say she was an undefeated world champion boxer. It just goes to show the shallow talent pool in women's boxing though.

[Eff Pandas]

She's doing great in Germany, but her profile, to the casual boxing fan in the US is near zero; brought her up as an example to help draw interest in the US (were she ever to come out here, or even simply have her fights picked up by HBO or Showtime to air.

What I'm saying is I don't think the interest is there to begin with. Thats why she's making a mill or whatever a fight in Germany(?) or wherever & perfectly happy doing just that & only that probably. I don't think she's ever had a fight that was shown on a US platform & if it was it was a long time ago so I'm sure she sees lil point in trying to prop up something that never helped her get where she's at.

Women's MMA has only been a thing for a very brief time and is only where it is now because Scott Coker took the chance on Gina Carano and looked to develop Ronda Rousey, and the UFC saw that Coker had enough success with it that it was worth making the attempt to try it out when they bought Strikeforce.

Boxing (at least with Showtime/CBS and PBC) is now starting that test out phase with the audience.

Claressa Shields is basically being set up, if she continues winning, to have an extended run as a feature fighter on ShoBox (not astronomical money, but good money that's then supplemented by the money she's getting from Puma); Heather Hardy and Amanda Serrano were both kind of set for similar paths, but the changes in rules for New York has basically killed off the ShoBox level cards in New York (the strongest ticketing market for either woman).

3-6 ShoBox shows each year, featuring female fights, as things seemed to be heading for before the NY change, would've been a good place to build from, imo

I'd argue female MMA got popular cuz these girls are pretty, its almost hilarious to watch the girls they pick outta Invicta vs the ones they leave in that MMA female league & there is a clear bias towards pretty with a nice shape to them & look sexy in those tight shorts (yay for camel toe) & are still pretty f#cking deadly with the option of submitting each other cuz fans like to see fights that end early.

That was the business model for making womans MMA popular (fair enough there is Cyborg, but she's the exception, not the rule).

Meanwhile female boxers can't break a overripe watermelon with their punch. They usually aren't that pretty. And they wear these big bulky ass trunks to hide much of their shape. Its a lil harder for boxing to copycat what MMA has done to the level its done.

And women generally don't like sports as much as men thus they aren't a faithful fanbase to draw from. Combat sports has to appeal to men & any combat sports fan who enjoys both sports will tell you the MMA world has done a better job packaging their product with its natural +'s, as mentioned, then boxing has.

Plus there is always the problem of the talent pool of female combat sports. The UFC has a created high level talent pool that they control & can force fights between the elite ladies & provide a competitive environment despite the limited talent pool. Boxing on the other hand has too much free market capitalism going on so the top ladies seldom met in a timely fashion & in that way female boxing suffers like male boxing suffers.

I believe they can make female boxing more popular, but it'll be seldom where a female fight commands as much attention as a popular prospect fight vs a decent top 40, top 50 type opponent so the glass ceiling in female boxing is very real & will be for the foreseeable future. All the while right now womans MMA has been able to inflate the appeal of their sport by selling attraction, sexy, stoppages & competition which are things womans boxing lacks in & certain lacks in its ability to bring those attributes to fans on a regular basis like MMA, the UFC in particular, is able to do.

[mlac]

The fact that Heather Hardy got more in her MMA Debut than she did in any fight her entire career tells you all you need to know. Women's MMA will be the death knell of women's boxing.

can you stop being a bigot? red k!