Greatest Fighter of every Decade.

[pasawayako]

didnt you know he beat atgs in castillo, gatti, corrales and BALDOMIR!

Yes those ATGs fighter that are class B+ at best.

[The Big Dunn]

2000- floyd mayweather?

From 1/1/00 -12/31/09

Floyd 17-0; 3 lineal; titles in 4 weight classes
Manny 23-1-2; 3 lineal titles in 5 weight classes

Floyd takes a hit because he was retired/out with injury from 12/07-9/09, which is unfair IMO. I don't know that its worse than the loss and the 2 draws Manny had during the period.

Could also argue Manny should take a hit for refusing the fight over PED testing, but I doubt those voting on the award would take that into consideration. Manny got the votes and the award so nothing really to discuss.

In the end, Floyd is seen as the greater fighter by the same people that voted for Manny as the FOTD as he is ranked ahead of him in every poll of ATG fighters.

[BM dnobagaV]

From 1/1/00 -12/31/09

Floyd 17-0; 3 lineal; titles in 4 weight classes
Manny 23-1-2; 3 lineal titles in 5 weight classes

Floyd takes a hit because he was retired/out with injury from 12/07-9/09, which is unfair IMO. I don't know that its worse than the loss and the 2 draws Manny had during the period.

Could also argue Manny should take a hit for refusing the fight over PED testing, but I doubt those voting on the award would take that into consideration. Manny got the votes and the award so nothing really to discuss.

In the end, Floyd is seen as the greater fighter by the same people that voted for Manny as the FOTD as he is ranked ahead of him in every poll of ATG fighters.

1 loss, avenged twice.
1 draw, about as relevant as a nc.
1 draw, should've been a W, either way avenged.

Manny had a better decade.
Add up the 90's & 10's, so Floyd could arguably surpass him all-time. But in the 00's, Manny was greater.
Far greater single wins as well in Cotto, Barrera, & Marquez vs. Castillo & Corrales

[The Big Dunn]

1 loss, avenged twice.
1 draw, about as relevant as a nc.
1 draw, should've been a W, either way avenged.

Manny had a better decade.
Add up the 90's & 10's, so Floyd could arguably surpass him all-time. But in the 00's, Manny was greater.
Far greater single wins as well in Cotto, Barrera, & Marquez vs. Castillo & Corrales

Still a loss whether it was avenged or not. The draw wasn't irrelevant. Manny had 3 KD's in round 1 and JMM rallied to a draw.

The draw was avenged but that doesn't take into account half the scorers at ringside and many watching at home had JMM winning.

That is your opinion. Mine is different and I gave some reasons why. Respectfully, IMO if you lose and draw twice you didn't have a better decade than someone that went undefeated.

Floyd also beat JMM during the decade. His win was much more decisive than Manny's over JMM. Don't forget Hatton, who was undefeated at the time.

[BoxingTrav]

Manny being the fighter of the decade is debatable. And his supporters can claim that win. But Floyd beat Manny in the ring and that's will never change.

Every fighter that fought both say Floyd is better
Floyd has a better record against common opponents

Manny had 12 full rounds to show his greatness against Floyd. What did we see?

We saw Manny has a higher IQ than we thought, but Floyd was superior in that aspect.

Manny had slower hand speed and foot speed. Manny did have more pop though. All in all Floyd was the general and dictated the pace.

Bottom line Manny had the mythical title but in reality Floyd proved to be the better man

[hugh grant]

Every fighter that fought both say Floyd is better
Floyd has a better record against common opponents
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Shows how deluded Floyd fans are.
Common opponents actually say PAC was better.
Cotto picked the shop worn pac to beat and ko floyd and said floyd ducked pac all those years as he knew hed get koed by pac. Jmm said PAC was best of era. Jmm might have said Floyd was trickier. But trickier doiesnt mean better obviously.

Let's ignore the fact Floyd cheatedcscales with jmm, PAC has 3 wins over jmm if not scoirecard error. Meaning pacs resume is a level at least above Floyd's if your being mean to PAC. If your being fair to PAC, poac is at least 2 levels above Floyd resume wise

That leaves hatton and SSM. SSM nearly koed Floyd. And hatton was koed in 2. PAC could still make 135 if he wanted to. Floyd couldn't make 144 against jmm.

You do the maths who is greater.

[BM dnobagaV]

Still a loss whether it was avenged or not. The draw wasn't irrelevant. Manny had 3 KD's in round 1 and JMM rallied to a draw.

The draw was avenged but that doesn't take into account half the scorers at ringside and many watching at home had JMM winning.

That is your opinion. Mine is different and I gave some reasons why. Respectfully, IMO if you lose and draw twice you didn't have a better decade than someone that went undefeated.

Floyd also beat JMM during the decade. His win was much more decisive than Manny's over JMM. Don't forget Hatton, who was undefeated at the time.

Don't bring up Hatton
Make a fool of yourself.


You misinterpreted the draw; I was referring to the Agapito draw. Irrelevant as anything and never brought up.

The 2nd draw was referring to JMM 1. Manny should've gotten the W and an error took it away from him. Again, do you put no value in someone avenging a loss?
Paul Williams beat everyone he ever faced.
Brian Mitchell did as well.

[The Big Dunn]

Don't bring up Hatton
Make a fool of yourself.


You misinterpreted the draw; I was referring to the Agapito draw. Irrelevant as anything and never brought up.

The 2nd draw was referring to JMM 1. Manny should've gotten the W and an error took it away from him. Again, do you put no value in someone avenging a loss?
Paul Williams beat everyone he ever faced.
Brian Mitchell did as well.

Why is bringing up Hatton making a fool of myself? Floyd was the 1st to defeat him and did so by KO. Manny also won by KO, it was stunning no doubt. That said, I think being the 1st to defeat a fighter counts a bit more than being the 2nd guy to do it.

OK, yeah that was the fight where he got cut from the headbutts right?

Yes, I am aware. I also reminded you the majority of those scoring at ringside thought JMM won.

I think you get points for avenging a loss, but avenging the loss doesn't make it go away. you could have a situation like Roy/tarver or Manny/Morales where the avenging comes after the other guy is battered in a loss (morales to raheem) or is coming down in weight (like Roy was).

Losses and draws have to count negatively.

They didn't fight anywhere near the caliber of men Floyd did even though they were undefeated.

[Dr Shaw High]

Manny is just some Filipeepee street kid who isn't fit to wash Floyd's sweaty ass crack.

[Boxing Goat]

I happen to agree with just about every one of those